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- Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:27 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
I see your response now. I did not claim that Steiner was antisemitic. Maybe he was, maybe not. I examined what he writes versus the objective reality.
- Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:26 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
As for Cleric's response. What he is doing is projecting anthroposophy on the symbols of Kabbalah. This is Steiner's claim that the role of anthroposophy is to find the inner meaning of the Bible, of spiritual traditions, and the like. As I mentioned, there is not much room for discussion here. Unfo...
- Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:10 am
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
I may do that. But the problem, as usual, is I have no idea whether you are genuinely trying to understand what Steiner is claiming or not... if anything I write about his claims will be read fairly. For ex., are you willing to accept, for the sake of argument , and for the sake of understanding St...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:48 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
You ignore the obvious, that our thinking as human beings can be wrong. If the content of your thinking is correct or wrong doesn’t change the divine nature of Thinking, and that is the point that Steiner is making. Of course it is our responsability to try to make good use of thinking. You set as ...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:45 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
It should really go without saying the philosophical and phenomenological argument for the role and capacity (or lack of arbitrary limitation) of Thinking is independent of Steiner and his spiritual outlook or claims. The lack of logical connection there should be obvious. Plenty of thinkers have r...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:48 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
You ignore the obvious, that our thinking as human beings can be wrong. You set as a goal a different consciousness from what we know. Consciousness beyond time and space. We do not know such a consciousness, and it must be proved that it can be attained. As long as it is not attained it stands as ...
- Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:33 am
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
I have the same "proof" of it as I do for anything I know - my exeprience and reason. The fact is, everything in our experience is 'counterfactual' and 'untestable' in the modern sense. The claim that I exist and experience the world is as well. Absolute proof is impossible - one can alwa...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:51 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
Shaibei, I'm contemplating your words: The idealist is lost within his own consciousness. To complete what reason cannot prove one needs faith. Faith is always there. Can it be that the "lostness" is what drives an idealist toward a final "leap of faith" and the internal revolut...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 6:38 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
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Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
Shaibei, Can there also be a faith that God has the capacity to reveal higher truth to us, beyond feelings of connection with him or sporadic visions of higher worlds? Can be. I believe in prophecy, it means I believe in a priori cognition of values and meaning behind reality It seems to me, when...
- Sun Feb 20, 2022 4:48 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
- Replies: 96
- Views: 100859
Re: I feel like Bernardo is getting carried away in a scary direction
The key for me, given my activist nature, is that whether meaning is discovered or created, to realize it one must participate. Unfortunately, I do not have time to participate, especially when the discussions are so long. I pop in here from time to time to read. As you know my position does not qu...