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by Jim Cross
Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:03 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

In our daily lives, we routinely make all sorts of assumptions. We look both ways when we cross roads so we are not hit by oncoming traffic. We believe the car we saw coming towards that is momentarily hidden by a bush still exists even though we no longer perceive it. We believe other people are co...
by Jim Cross
Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

Jim, do you realize that when you are responding to me, you already subscribed to a metaphysical belief that my mind (with its conscious experience) exists. But you have no way to prove or verify this experimentally, so it can only be a belief. An idealist and a materialist were walking together an...
by Jim Cross
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

My metaphysical belief system is anti-metaphysics. Similar to "none of the above". Jim, do you realize that when you are responding to me, you already subscribed to a metaphysical belief that my mind (with its conscious experience) exists. But you have no way to prove or verify this exper...
by Jim Cross
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:12 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

You write : "Correct." But everything you say after still argues that science can be useful for resolving metaphysical questions. All the "isms" are circular. There aren't some with greater problems than others. Science is irrelevant to all of them. They are belief systems. Yes,...
by Jim Cross
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

There aren't some with greater problems than others. How do you justify such a statement? Do you agree that different metaphysics struggle with different problems? If so, what metric do you use to claim that these different problems in their totality (per metaphysic) are all of the same size? That'...
by Jim Cross
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

The argument is that science can't answer metaphysical questions. So what can? Nothing. There is no argument or fact that can support or refute a metaphysical position. That includes materialism, physicalism, idealism, panpsychism, dualism,, etc. Al of the isms are self-contained, circular belief s...
by Jim Cross
Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:26 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

Mark, You're still beating the dead horse of materialism as is BK. The argument is that science can't answer metaphysical questions. So what can? Nothing. There is no argument or fact that can support or refute a metaphysical position. That includes materialism, physicalism, idealism, panpsychism, d...
by Jim Cross
Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:38 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

Actually either way BK's idealism is wrong. This is the claim I was looking for, if we can find one more "materialist" siding with Jim we have a small but sufficient team. And then, since this is a mainly idealistic forum, we find two more idealists minimum also and then we are off to the...
by Jim Cross
Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:58 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

Eugene and Martin, If entanglement is measurement, this seems to lead to some interesting conclusions. If two electrons are entangled, then measurement must have occurred between them. If measurement requires a conscious observer, then the electrons must be conscious. Panpsychism. If measurement doe...
by Jim Cross
Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:30 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism
Replies: 46
Views: 381

Re: Entanglement etc. Materialism vs. Idealism

Martin, The paper accompanying the video has its own mixed messages: It turns out that by thinking of measurement and entanglement as related phenomena we can shed quite a bit of light (so to speak) on the nature of physical reality "Related" and "same" are not the same. The stat...