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by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: This forum

Clearly, there are people who are much less awake, present, etc. within the flow of experience than others. All of these things exist on a gradient. It is quite possible that an infant never fully awakens to its life as the coherent center of be-ing that most of us take for granted (so much so that...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 9:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: This forum

What you are referring to as 'states of consciousness' is CA that has been learned instinctively . The reasoning here is similar to a mathematical virtuoso who can simply do calculations 'in his sleep' saying, "There is no conscious activity here, I don't need to invoke anything, mathematical ...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 5:52 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

'speak to the forms' I mean they don't address the existence of immortal ideas and forms (ie Platonic Ideas) Obviously they speak to other people, saints, animals, etc For myself, I don't believe these immortal forms exist except as an artifact of a culture or religion. For example, a mass of folks...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 5:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

'speak to the forms' I mean they don't address the existence of immortal ideas and forms (ie Platonic Ideas) Obviously they speak to other people, saints, animals, etc For myself, I don't believe these immortal forms exist except as an artifact of a culture or religion. For example, a mass of folks ...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 4:43 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

These quotes\references point to the direct perception and appreciation of the unboundedness of Being in all things and all beings. I am That, this is That, all this is nothing but That. This appreciation can have a flavor of a culture or a deity, or a master. There typically is a spirit of devotion...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

Lorenzo, you seem to adopt a nihilistic position denying the manifested world of forms, and denying the activity of consciousness that creates the world of forms, any value and reality. The Reality of Consciousness is like two sides of the same coin - what Consciousness is and what it does - and bo...
by lorenzop
Thu May 23, 2024 12:48 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

in Sanskrit the word for intellect (buddhi) is used differently than how we use the word in the West, buddhi is not a conscious activity.
Atman: It's who we are, not who we think we are.
by lorenzop
Wed May 22, 2024 11:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: This forum

I must be missing something - I fail to see how thinking, a local and finite activity, no matter how exalted, can directly invoke or be equivalent to a Oneness, or Intuitive Whole. Can a thought convey unboundedness\Infinity\Freedom? And if this is possible, to invoke a thought as Ideal Principle o...
by lorenzop
Wed May 22, 2024 3:43 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: This forum

In the spirit of ‘reaching across the aisle’ I’ve considered naming samadhi\pure consciousness a specific manner of thinking, even though it’s traditionally described as non-thinking. We’ve all experienced thinking gross or crude thoughts (gross and crude not in content but mechanics, and we’ve expe...
by lorenzop
Tue May 21, 2024 10:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 33
Views: 346

Re: This forum

I must be missing something - I fail to see how thinking, a local and finite activity, no matter how exalted, can directly invoke or be equivalent to a Oneness, or Intuitive Whole. Can a thought convey unboundedness\Infinity\Freedom? And if this is possible, to invoke a thought as Ideal Principle or...