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by Eugene I.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 202986

Re: The Central Topic

I'm meditation on something now, which I'll post to Mike. I hope it will give a little more practical sense for the way cognition changes. Cleric, I apologize for missing your post here . You explained it well and as I read it, I think there are some takeaways. One is to learn from Steiner's mistak...
by Eugene I.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:23 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Earth as school
Replies: 7
Views: 438

Re: Earth as school

Earth and human form is a school, but not a school only. Reducing it only to a school is a limited perspective on it.
by Eugene I.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:13 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 202986

Re: The Central Topic

The only thing that keeps your dual view from becoming non-dual is that you keep the realm of meaning to be categorically different from what you call noncorporeal realm. They are one and the same. It's the Deep MAL picture. The higher realms are the thought-time-waves within the deeper strata of t...
by Eugene I.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:48 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 202986

Re: The Central Topic

It is actually one and the same veil, Eugene. The difference is that mysticism stops at what you rightly call nondual perception . It was also my whole point in my response to Mark, where I stressed on the fact that the self-remembrance, experiencing, etc. necessarily need to be in fully receptive ...
by Eugene I.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:08 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic
Replies: 47
Views: 59943

Re: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic

More and more I'm finding it hard to distinguish between the above comment and Jim's comments. To say that it's not about dwelling on the mistakes but about pointing out the original 'mistake' of positing that integral Thinking is the key to parsing the deeper meanings and ideations beyond the 'vei...
by Eugene I.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:55 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic
Replies: 47
Views: 59943

Re: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic

It's not about Steiner's mistakes, but about the fact that his method of "breaking through the veil" is a false promise and wishful thinking (and that is exactly why he made so many mistakes). But heck, there have been so many false promises in the human history, here is just another one f...
by Eugene I.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:40 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic
Replies: 47
Views: 59943

Re: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic

Eugene, this is getting tiring for me. You asked many time and I always give answers but you're not looking for answers - you're looking for ways to refute the answers. And one can always find such ways, even if they are simple and flat out denial. I've spoken several times about the nature of Stei...
by Eugene I.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:15 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic
Replies: 47
Views: 59943

Re: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic

This funnel of meaning is the same as the first but experienced 'inside-out' as the meaning implied by the spiritual activity of beings. This expansion can continue waaay further than the veil that is being hit in the purely receptive way. And in this moment Eugene says "You can't do that, the...
by Eugene I.
Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:40 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 202986

Re: The Central Topic

The problem is: there is a bunch of these fish hanging around. Which one do we bite? Or none? And if we do want to bite, how do we know which one is true and which is fake? And even if one decides to stay away from biting any fish how do they know they are actually not biting any? https://img-s-msn-...
by Eugene I.
Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:31 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 202986

Re: The Central Topic

God created the world indeed as very good. The Divine misery refers to the fact that humans don't understand what their place is in the good world. The misery issues when children don't realize that their Father has seeded them in order to grow. They refuse that and say that they are here to limit ...