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by Stranger
Tue Nov 01, 2022 4:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Self-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Echoing today’s remark by Cleric about the tenor of my comments to Stranger’s theory - tenor that clearly pertains to my comments only - I admit that I have written them from a place of irritation that, beyond being inappropriate to fruitful dialogue in general, has inevitably biased my viewpoint a...
by Stranger
Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Other than that, I hope you don’t find the discussion following your initial post, as a rude welcome to the forum, as if your effort is demeaned. In fact, the topics that you bring up are precisely the kind that can lead further and further. Most other less fruitful topics of the kind “What is alte...
by Stranger
Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

There is no point at which any being can look out and say the higher beings of the holarchy decided to stop existing and start the process over again. I am wondering if, assuming that also aligns with your intuition, that has any implications for the conclusions of the model? I think the model alig...
by Stranger
Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:37 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

We all already have that intuition, if it's the way things are. The question is how we do by make this intuition more conscious so that we can begin to 'grasp' it? Does the metaphysical modeling contribute anything to that goal or, actually, work counter-productively to that goal? That is what Cler...
by Stranger
Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Then it inevitably runs into the limits of its own conceptual activity, thereby creating irresolvable theoretical conundrums such as you stated above. MAL purposefully embeds a telos, but also doesn't know why it embedded the telos. How can we reconcile these two without lapsing into the idolatry o...
by Stranger
Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

But notice in my description/model, "God" as any spiritual being(s) who we can relate to with our "I"-sense, with what you may refer to as Platonic ideation, don't exist. Isn't this a major difference than with your model and many traditional spiritual understandings? Yet the lo...
by Stranger
Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Even though this sounds very abstract, it makes an important point. Our metaphysical habits always make us imagine how the universe began. For example, it is almost taken for granted in BK’s scheme that MAL decided and dissociated into alters. One can’t help but imagine that the whole MAL existed i...
by Stranger
Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

But isn't it possible, even likely, that the more one feels the metaphysical exercise is valuable and satisfactory, the less one is motivated to pursue any experiential Gnosis? I would say the last few centuries has made this likely possibility into a confirmed reality. Of course it is possible and...
by Stranger
Mon Oct 31, 2022 12:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Thanks Cleric, yes, I also share this view and that's why I said in my previous post " the melding of such philosophical paradigm with the spiritual practice and spiritual and intellectual development of our consciousness beyond the boundaries of the human level of the intellect", and by t...
by Stranger
Sun Oct 30, 2022 10:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.
Replies: 80
Views: 7532

Re: Seflf-causality of the reality of consciousness.

Cleric, so, what's your opinion on the self-causality hypothesis? Do you think it is plausible within the framework of the Steinerian idealism?