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- Fri May 24, 2024 1:04 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
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Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Yes, but more importantly, we know exactly why it is true, as imaginatively illustrated by Cleric's latest post. Which, I would say, answers your previous question - " how to integrate this living insightful approach with mathematics which is by nature a mental abstraction " - both descri...
- Thu May 23, 2024 7:34 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42416
Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Likewise, if they say that an adequate explanation can only be something in which our first-person thinking perspective doesn't participate , they are clinging to past modern habits of analyzing the World state from a safe distance. If they say we can't become the explanation of how spiritual inten...
- Thu May 23, 2024 6:11 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
Thanks for the clarification - agreed. However I'm inclined to NOT add any burdens or requirements in The Way. I don't believe it's required that we participate in this or that . . . though participation could certainly speed progress! Incidentally, a few decades ago, I had an 'interaction' with an...
- Thu May 23, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
'speak to the forms' I mean they don't address the existence of immortal ideas and forms (ie Platonic Ideas) Obviously they speak to other people, saints, animals, etc For myself, I don't believe these immortal forms exist except as an artifact of a culture or religion. For example, a mass of folks...
- Thu May 23, 2024 5:13 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
These quotes\references point to the direct perception and appreciation of the unboundedness of Being in all things and all beings. I am That, this is That, all this is nothing but That. That's definitely true. But that does not stop the beings who attained to the unboundedness from being actively ...
- Thu May 23, 2024 3:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
- Replies: 63
- Views: 42416
Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Thanks for the insights, Cleric, I have nothing to disagree here. My only comment is that in the IFS example there is still a computational machinery that transforms our gestures into the resulting shapes. So, the IFS is an interplay of the willing gestures of the player and the "machine" ...
- Thu May 23, 2024 2:51 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
You are correct in that I don't endorse 'the manifested world of forms', not sure how that makes me a nihilist. Very few people recognize this layer\world of forms: Rupert Spira, Buddha, Ramana Maharishi etc. do not. I think you misunderstand Rupert, listen to him here From 'I Am Nothing' to 'I Am ...
- Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
Somebody comes into the Zen Center with a lighted cigarette, walks up to the Buddha-statue, blows smoke in its face and drops ashes on its lap. You are standing there. What can you do? This person has understood that nothing is holy or unholy. All things in the universe are one, and that one is h...
- Thu May 23, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
Lorenzo, you seem to adopt a nihilistic position denying the manifested world of forms, and denying the activity of consciousness that creates the world of forms, any value and reality. The Reality of Consciousness is like two sides of the same coin - what Consciousness is and what it does - and bot...
- Thu May 23, 2024 1:08 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
- Replies: 33
- Views: 383
Re: On the Gradient of Thinking
in Sanskrit the word for intellect (buddhi) is used differently than how we use the word in the West, buddhi is not a conscious activity. Atman: It's who we are, not who we think we are. Right, this is the state of samadhi, which is not active but steady, but it is still a state of the intellect. A...