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by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 7:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 57
Views: 42233

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Likewise, if they say that an adequate explanation can only be something in which our first-person thinking perspective doesn't participate , they are clinging to past modern habits of analyzing the World state from a safe distance. If they say we can't become the explanation of how spiritual inten...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 6:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

Thanks for the clarification - agreed. However I'm inclined to NOT add any burdens or requirements in The Way. I don't believe it's required that we participate in this or that . . . though participation could certainly speed progress! Incidentally, a few decades ago, I had an 'interaction' with an...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

'speak to the forms' I mean they don't address the existence of immortal ideas and forms (ie Platonic Ideas) Obviously they speak to other people, saints, animals, etc For myself, I don't believe these immortal forms exist except as an artifact of a culture or religion. For example, a mass of folks...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

These quotes\references point to the direct perception and appreciation of the unboundedness of Being in all things and all beings. I am That, this is That, all this is nothing but That. That's definitely true. But that does not stop the beings who attained to the unboundedness from being actively ...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 3:35 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 57
Views: 42233

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Thanks for the insights, Cleric, I have nothing to disagree here. My only comment is that in the IFS example there is still a computational machinery that transforms our gestures into the resulting shapes. So, the IFS is an interplay of the willing gestures of the player and the "machine" ...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

You are correct in that I don't endorse 'the manifested world of forms', not sure how that makes me a nihilist. Very few people recognize this layer\world of forms: Rupert Spira, Buddha, Ramana Maharishi etc. do not. I think you misunderstand Rupert, listen to him here From 'I Am Nothing' to 'I Am ...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 11:37 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

Somebody comes into the Zen Center with a lighted ciga­rette, walks up to the Buddha-statue, blows smoke in its face and drops ashes on its lap. You are standing there. What can you do? This person has understood that nothing is holy or un­holy. All things in the universe are one, and that one is h...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

Lorenzo, you seem to adopt a nihilistic position denying the manifested world of forms, and denying the activity of consciousness that creates the world of forms, any value and reality. The Reality of Consciousness is like two sides of the same coin - what Consciousness is and what it does - and bot...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 1:08 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

in Sanskrit the word for intellect (buddhi) is used differently than how we use the word in the West, buddhi is not a conscious activity. Atman: It's who we are, not who we think we are. Right, this is the state of samadhi, which is not active but steady, but it is still a state of the intellect. A...
by Stranger
Thu May 23, 2024 12:02 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 31
Views: 325

Re: On the Gradient of Thinking

Atman that is hidden within all beings is not evident; it is only perceived through the subtle and acute intellect.
Katha Upanishad 1.3.12