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by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 7:48 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

I'm sure Cleric can respond with more helpful elaborations, but I will only say that we are externalizing thinking (CA) as long we keep looking for some other 'mathematical or algorithmic structure' that should be responsible for shaping sensory experience, besides our own CA. We have to experience...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 6:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

This is why Cleric says DH's approach is so susceptible to the TM fallacy. In the video, it is said that DH understands the fabric of space-time as 'derivative from the perspective of the CA hierarchy interactions' (around 38 min). What this means is that the space-time fabric is felt to be derivat...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 5:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Right, and if you actually read the latest DH paper or listen his lates interviews, he was able to break through this atomism and show mathematically how the interference of lower-level CAs leads to their fusion into higher-level CAs, or as he calls it, "nested hierarchy of conscious agents&qu...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 4:37 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

We could never become free spiritual beings if the Celestial Music continued to inspire the imaginative activity of the Bachs of its own accord. That is why the inverted activity such as concentration/prayer has become necessary - it allows us to continue receiving that higher inspiration while als...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Years ago when I first found DH's work I was very enthusiastic about it because it really was the first of that kind that I had seen. However, even though it stimulates the imagination, I think that it still formulates things in such a way that it is greatly susceptible to 'spiritual atomism' (wher...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 4:02 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 15
Views: 101

Re: This forum

Eugene, What is your perspective on the link between the higher CA states and our ability to address various problems that plague humanity, such as intractable medical issues briefly mentioned above? Have you also discerned that civilization will only be able to address these medical issues through...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 2:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 15
Views: 101

Re: This forum

Lorenzo, I know this post by Ashvin was particularly appealing to you because of its one-paragraph format, however it would be great if you could also read the last one from Cleric, which was explicitly written to your attention and benefit. Please… it's still a reasonable length. Don't you think i...
by Stranger
Wed May 22, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 15
Views: 101

Re: This forum

In the spirit of ‘reaching across the aisle’ I’ve considered naming samadhi\pure consciousness a specific manner of thinking, even though it’s traditionally described as non-thinking. We’ve all experienced thinking gross or crude thoughts (gross and crude not in content but mechanics, and we’ve exp...
by Stranger
Tue May 21, 2024 11:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Cleric, I was wondering whether you have since come across any work from others along these lines of the 'anthropic continuity principle'? It is also surprising to me that this intuition would not have been developed and fleshed out by others to some extent. I have not. Which is strange because it ...
by Stranger
Tue May 21, 2024 11:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 49
Views: 42065

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Regardless of what DH claims his CA theory to be or to do, IMHO it has its important place. If successful, it would fill a missing link in the philosophy of consciousness and address the main challenge from the materialistic camp, namely - if everything is consciousness and the whole reality is noth...