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by findingblanks
Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Great, Scott. But my larger point is simply that when you say: " Steiner's phenomenology is his epistemology, which differs from yours and Kant's." This seems to suggest that you read PoF as a phenomenology. I'm glad you don't, but I can see why people might take it that you do. I certainl...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: (mis)understanding
Replies: 4
Views: 62

Re: (mis)understanding

Thanks, Lorenzop.

Sticking with that analogy, I'm not sure we'd ever know or need to care if we are seeing a rope or a snake. Now, once we step on it, that's another story :)
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: (mis)understanding
Replies: 4
Views: 62

(mis)understanding

If the understanding being grasped and fully intuited is not any representation, then what it it? Or, maybe: when there is utterly no representation happening and you're not dead, what's there? Different models and schemas will demand this receive different kinds of responses? In fact, they some wil...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Martin, it can sometimes help to keep in mind that Steiner wrote The Philosophy of Freedom in his early thirties and that he fully expected his mentors and those he wrote it for to grasp it's essence and be persuaded. His sweet letters to his friend Rosa are one of the sources we can read to learn o...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:40 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Yeah, exactly. I was merely pointing out that if Scott was suggesting that Steiner wanted his core philosophical texts not to be read as epistemology, this would be off. And trying to read them primarily as phenomenological will be very misleading for this reason. However, to the extent that we are ...
by findingblanks
Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:38 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

"In short, Steiner's phenomenology is his epistemology, which differs from yours and Kant's." Technically, this is true and helpful. However, anybody who decides to read a book like PoF because Steiner pointed to it as his most important book will be surprised if they are told that Steiner...
by findingblanks
Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Thanks, Eugene. That helped a little. But looking back on your claim: ""Look at a chair in your room and reflect on the actual sensory phenomena in your 1-st person experience related to it. You will first notice the soup of colors and shapes of the whole visual experience of the room. The...
by findingblanks
Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Maybe, Eugene. But I think what you are calling the separated bits (colors, shapes, etc) are necessarily post-phenomena of experience except in unique cases when, say, you are inspecing rooms for any signs of the color red so that when you open the door your first experience is already filtering jus...
by findingblanks
Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 148
Views: 1408

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Eugene, I really liked how you started breaking the phenomenological looking at the white wall down. I was with you all the way until you said: "Look at a chair in your room and reflect on the actual sensory phenomena in your 1-st person experience related to it. You will first notice the soup ...
by findingblanks
Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: "Idealism and Consciousness": My Comment/Challenge to BK
Replies: 57
Views: 921

Re: "Idealism and Consciousness": My Comment/Challenge to BK

Yeah, so the way you represented my basic stance in the last post left a lot to be desired. I was frustrated to read that you still see me in some of those lights and don't recognize that I also did engage with disagreement. Yes, we all have different points at which we feel there is probably not go...