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by findingblanks
Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: observtiton, logic, folklore and presuppositions
Replies: 8
Views: 86

Re: observtiton, logic, folklore and presuppositions

And, yes, my belief is that we have good explanations for what caused the folklore that 1) The red flag is what causes the bulls to go wild 2) Why waving any color flag can cause a bull to go wild. 3) What could cause a person to assume the folklore is real and then try to explain why red makes bull...
by findingblanks
Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:14 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

HI, It's not about labels for me when somebody says 'this is how this appears' and I say, "Oh, not only is that not how it appears to many people, but some of your characterization is incoherent' So, for me it isn't about finding our favoiite labels and then arguing about who gets to put them o...
by findingblanks
Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: observtiton, logic, folklore and presuppositions
Replies: 8
Views: 86

observtiton, logic, folklore and presuppositions

Help me out. I'll benefit from hearing people's basic reaction to if somebody (whose intelligence they respected very much) said something like, "Okay, so we all know that a slug dies when you pour salt on it that comes from a blue container. I've studied this very seriously and I can explain w...
by findingblanks
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

".I am concerned, not with the way in which science, so far, has interpreted consciousness, but with the way in which we experience it in every moment of our lives." - Steiner Yes, I believe there is some very good phenomenology in PoF. However, I primarily believe that Steiner is making a...
by findingblanks
Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:27 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

"I don't think Scott ever said PoF should not be read as phenomenology."

Agreed. When Scott said that Steiner's epistemology IS his phenomenology, I took him to mean the same. Which is why I pointed out where I see it differently. Scott's a big brainer :)
by findingblanks
Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Great, Scott. But my larger point is simply that when you say: " Steiner's phenomenology is his epistemology, which differs from yours and Kant's." This seems to suggest that you read PoF as a phenomenology. I'm glad you don't, but I can see why people might take it that you do. I certainl...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: (mis)understanding
Replies: 4
Views: 63

Re: (mis)understanding

Thanks, Lorenzop.

Sticking with that analogy, I'm not sure we'd ever know or need to care if we are seeing a rope or a snake. Now, once we step on it, that's another story :)
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:21 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: (mis)understanding
Replies: 4
Views: 63

(mis)understanding

If the understanding being grasped and fully intuited is not any representation, then what it it? Or, maybe: when there is utterly no representation happening and you're not dead, what's there? Different models and schemas will demand this receive different kinds of responses? In fact, they some wil...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Martin, it can sometimes help to keep in mind that Steiner wrote The Philosophy of Freedom in his early thirties and that he fully expected his mentors and those he wrote it for to grasp it's essence and be persuaded. His sweet letters to his friend Rosa are one of the sources we can read to learn o...
by findingblanks
Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:40 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Replies: 152
Views: 1478

Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms

Yeah, exactly. I was merely pointing out that if Scott was suggesting that Steiner wanted his core philosophical texts not to be read as epistemology, this would be off. And trying to read them primarily as phenomenological will be very misleading for this reason. However, to the extent that we are ...