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by AshvinP
Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:45 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Are you aware of what occurs during your deep dreamless sleep? - I had an experience of lucid dreamless sleep where there was absolutely nothing and no conscious activity whatsoever, yet it was experienced (="awared") and registered in the memory. - There may be two reasons why we have no...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:52 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Are you aware of what occurs during your deep dreamless sleep? I may be an unusually active dreamer, but my experience is of non-stop dreaming. Only in retrospect can I surmise that deep dreamless sleep must have happened between one dream and another. But even if in such a state, what is aware of ...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

I am indeed. It isn’t I who is refusing to look at those arguments. That was my starting point decades ago. I outgrew them. If that were true, then you would be able to summarize their arguments and/or provide counter-arguments. Instead, when I brought up the arguments here, you responded as if you...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

And so we turn to those who have been on this journey all along, letting their direct experience sing through them to presence Itself in our midst, should we let it - the poets, artists, and musicians. It is within their presented experience that we can poetically explore it ourselves. But you are ...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Eugene I wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:32 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 5:21 pm What I can't go with is that there is Thinking absent Awareness.
Not possible :)

Are you aware of what occurs during your deep dreamless sleep?
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Inevitably, due to sound philosophical and scientific considerations, one must then posit a complete void of knowledge which exists within the structure of Being, and there is literally nowhere else to possibly go from there, as you correctly point out (Shu). Indeed, to posit is to be aware ... Alt...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:09 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

There are some fine points that need to be established here, which may take a few turns. This first is important: Being is not a quality, but the very truth of existence. Being, as the ground of existence, cannot be a quality of something else, and as such cannot be compared to experience. There is...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Before I can go further, there is another little twist that I need to straighten. I was not referring to any distinction between knowing and thinking, I was strictly talking about poetic thought and representational thought. Perhaps you think of these as abstract concepts, but you need not do so, a...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:20 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Before I can go further, there is another little twist that I need to straighten. I was not referring to any distinction between knowing and thinking, I was strictly talking about poetic thought and representational thought. Perhaps you think of these as abstract concepts, but you need not do so, a...
by AshvinP
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:07 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 585
Views: 4871

Re: Criticism

Anyway, the key questions I want you to ask you at this point, and would appreciate a reply to, are as follows - are you aware that when you write reasoned conclusions about "energy", "esthetic knowledge", etc. that you are, in fact, thinking, even if you normally don't pay atte...