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by AshvinP
Tue May 27, 2025 4:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

However, I also think that exposure to these illustrations can be stimulating in the right direction for intellects who have not yet encountered Anthroposophy as a spiritual path. Because the intellect is capable of renouncing the type of ‘understanding’ that goes through logical compulsion, to let ...
by AshvinP
Mon May 26, 2025 12:33 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Ashvin, the kind of scenario you have constructed has little to do with what we have discussed so far, from my perspective. Surely, you are right: if the average person randomly opens the ‘newspaper’, reads the news of Levin’s cancer treatment (let’s imagine he’ll develop one) then on the next page ...
by AshvinP
Sun May 25, 2025 1:10 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

The “seeing is believing” was part of a description of what Steiner implied at various occasions speaking of "rational medicine", not my recommendation for a pedagogical approach to Anthroposophy. And I disagree with your very strong point not in the sense that I consider seeing is believing a path ...
by AshvinP
Sat May 24, 2025 5:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

It's old story. I disagree with your discussion hacking methods, and also with your very strong point here. But I am not sure it would be beneficial or useful to elaborate more at this point, sadly. Good, then at least we're finally clear that I am not simply saying things you already know and ...
by AshvinP
Fri May 23, 2025 10:59 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Perhaps you should simply stop trying to fix me, especially with remedies such as this: "Another angle is to consider Levin's research that you have summarized recently, and which, I don't think anyone can doubt, has led and will continue to lead to enormously practical results. As we know, Levin ...
by AshvinP
Fri May 23, 2025 6:32 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Cell Intelligence in Physiological & Morphological Spaces
Replies: 263
Views: 214285

Re: Cell Intelligence in Physiological & Morphological Spaces

One other problem is that for ML the World state is still defined by some foundational substrate . Everything else are patterns within the substrate. This still gives a distinct bottom-up flavor to ML's mindset. It is interesting to see this, for example, in this conversation: Here it is clear how ...
by AshvinP
Fri May 23, 2025 5:36 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Ashvin, I don't get why you are doing this. Steiner's words, and Cleric's, are there for everyone to read. If you want to understand them the way you describe, OK, but we are not going to take infinite rounds on this one thing, please. I see no benefit in going down into the details of this yet ...
by AshvinP
Fri May 23, 2025 3:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Now, it is of course up to you to decide that these are "bad translations" or "simply overestimations" by Steiner. As I said, there is not much I can add here. If you don't agree with what he said, well, ask him, or just consider that these are overestimations. I don't agree that your ...
by AshvinP
Thu May 22, 2025 4:57 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Now, it is of course up to you to decide that these are "bad translations" or "simply overestimations" by Steiner. As I said, there is not much I can add here. If you don't agree with what he said, well, ask him, or just consider that these are overestimations. I don't agree that your ...
by AshvinP
Thu May 22, 2025 12:12 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Saving the materialists
Replies: 469
Views: 326276

Re: Saving the materialists

Yes, Ashvin, we have already agreed on what you say in the first two paragraphs - absolutely. There is no heavy lifting to be done by experts, and spiritual science can only be taken in by inner development. But Steiner is clear: the attention of opposers to Anthroposophy - not their inner ...