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by AshvinP
Thu May 23, 2024 12:32 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 22
Views: 209

Re: This forum

Not denying anything you've written above - however, I am not referring to conscious activity. I am referring to what could be called 'states of consciousness'. The field of psychology has recognized 3 general states of consciousness, sleeping, dreaming and waking. The Upanishads recognize several ...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 8:40 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 42123

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

I'm sure Cleric can respond with more helpful elaborations, but I will only say that we are externalizing thinking (CA) as long we keep looking for some other 'mathematical or algorithmic structure' that should be responsible for shaping sensory experience, besides our own CA. We have to experience...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 7:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 42123

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

This is why Cleric says DH's approach is so susceptible to the TM fallacy. In the video, it is said that DH understands the fabric of space-time as 'derivative from the perspective of the CA hierarchy interactions' (around 38 min). What this means is that the space-time fabric is felt to be derivat...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 6:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 42123

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Right, and if you actually read the latest DH paper or listen his lates interviews, he was able to break through this atomism and show mathematically how the interference of lower-level CAs leads to their fusion into higher-level CAs, or as he calls it, "nested hierarchy of conscious agents&qu...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 42123

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

Right, and if you actually read the latest DH paper or listen his lates interviews, he was able to break through this atomism and show mathematically how the interference of lower-level CAs leads to their fusion into higher-level CAs, or as he calls it, "nested hierarchy of conscious agents&qu...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 42123

Re: Donald Hoffman's search for a mathematical theory of consciousness

I would actually argue that most of the scientific breakthroughs were achieved by scientists intuiting into the higher-order mind fields. However, in most cases they were not consciously aware of it, even though still many were. As Bach said in his last words on his death bed: "Do not cry for ...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 3:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 22
Views: 209

Re: This forum

In the spirit of ‘reaching across the aisle’ I’ve considered naming samadhi\pure consciousness a specific manner of thinking, even though it’s traditionally described as non-thinking. We’ve all experienced thinking gross or crude thoughts (gross and crude not in content but mechanics, and we’ve exp...
by AshvinP
Wed May 22, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 22
Views: 209

Re: This forum

I must be missing something - I fail to see how thinking, a local and finite activity, no matter how exalted, can directly invoke or be equivalent to a Oneness, or Intuitive Whole. Can a thought convey unboundedness\Infinity\Freedom? And if this is possible, to invoke a thought as Ideal Principle o...
by AshvinP
Tue May 21, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Essay: Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part IV)
Replies: 9
Views: 163

Re: Essay: Retracing Spiritual Activity (Part IV)

Thanks for sharing this Guney. I am not sure the bold is exactly right, I believe thinking is redeemed from the (1) normal rational sequences of thoughts that go with the flow of sensory stimuli, rather than from (2) the unconscious factors that guide it, while the unconscious factors are the ones ...
by AshvinP
Tue May 21, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: On the Gradient of Thinking
Replies: 22
Views: 209

Re: This forum

Great! Then I imagine the next time we hear from you, after you have digested the material on this forum at your own pace, it won't be another video link to nondual awakening, which we have all agreed traps us at the threshold of true Self-lucidity, or commiseration about the past history of the fo...