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by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

I am ingoring your quote of Steiner, because we are discussing here what Cleric wrote to you and Ben. Who cares if it is "idealism anymore"? The question is whether it is true , not whether it conforms to any abstract intellectual theory. This is what Cleric keeps trying to tell you - if ...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

I changed the analogy to illustrate the point better. So if Cleric were to say, " everything I have experienced in the soul-realm results from the spiritual activity of beings ", you would say this is no longer a metaphysical claim, right? So what exactly is the point of you even making t...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

If we make an analogy, let's say Cleric claims "in the physical realm we perceive a person moves when he is shoved by another person". Your reply is, "that is an ontological claim! Not an experimentally verifiable one". Does that make any sense to you? Any claim that applies to ...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:46 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

What we are trying to point to is that there are no ontological claims in SS. Steiner himself has an ontology expressed elsewhere, but it's completely irrelevant to SS. Actually its counter-productive, because the person understanding SS as metaphysics/ontology will naturally move in opposite direc...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

Eugene, Consider the deeper difference at play when Cleric says " everything results from the spiritual activity of beings ". Right off the bat, we can say, " everything in my inner world of thought-forms also results from my spiritual activity! ". Here let's just agree "sp...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

1.”Das Höchste wäre, zu begreifen, daß alles Faktische schon Theorie ist. Die Bläue des Himmels offenbart uns das Grundgesetz der Chromatik. Man suche nur nichts hinter den Phänomenen; sie selbst sind die “ Maximen und Reflexionen 488 What you are quoting points directly to the fact that Goethe con...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:02 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

JW, Thank you for the elaboration. To be clear, I also am only interested in our own views which we have reasoned through. I bring up Goethe as an example of an epistemology that directly challenges Kant's and all other implicitly dualistic epistemologies. That is really what I want to hone in on he...
by AshvinP
Wed Dec 01, 2021 12:10 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

Everything results from the spiritual activity of beings. Cleric, I hope we settled on that discussion about the "assumptions" and can put it now to rest. I'm reading your posts with much interest. This statement above I think is the most concise and precise formulation of the "meani...
by AshvinP
Tue Nov 30, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Criticism
Replies: 675
Views: 5766

Re: Criticism

https://metakastrup.org/viewtopic.php?p=362#p362 A very simple (probably insultingly simple) example could be if we have never moved our arm and hold on to the "no-arm-movement" paradigm. Someone tells us "Hey, it is actually possible to move your arm". We reply "Negative. ...
by AshvinP
Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Res Ipsa Loquitur: Kant vs. Goethe (and the World)
Replies: 19
Views: 217

Re: Res Ipsa Loquitur: Kant vs. Goethe (and the World)

Justin, Thank you for the detailed response. Just to be clear, although the essay sets up as Kant v. Goethe and mentions other thinkers, the core spirit of Goethe's approach is to rely on one's own knowing capacity when confronting the phenomena and not other people's thought-systems. It is about bu...