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by Cleric
Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:26 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

Right, so it seems to me that, as a practical matter, the spiritual life for many souls will always be mediated through an organization of some form, even including the Anthroposophical Society. For those souls who are not partaking in deep supersensible research, the Society will act much in the ...
by Cleric
Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:44 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

I am curious, how would you see the Christian Community in this context of 'religion and its institutions'? As we know, Steiner was not directly involved in creating this, but he certainly lent it his inner support and felt that it would be a useful structure to support others in developing the ...
by Cleric
Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

Is the above a decent approximation of what you were describing (of course, leaving out many details of how supersensible research actually unfolds, although it may be helpful to explore that more as well, if possible)? Yes, in the general sense, this is what I tried to suggest. Of course, there ...
by Cleric
Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:31 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

It occurred to me this evening that there is perhaps a better way to describe the Lazarus-John mystery in more directly anthroposophical terms. Consider the following: Through natural science, the human being has selflessly given himself over to to the empirically observable world such that he has ...
by Cleric
Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

Apologies for jumping in the middle of all the subtlety with a few pointy questions. But I think they are important. 1/ Who are the beings intuited by Tomberg in Spirit world? I am asking because I don’t understand the deliberate gesture of stepping back from the Spirit World, once one has lived in ...
by Cleric
Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

In any case, I am sure Rodriel would have some more details and insights to add here as well. I have Salman's biography on VT sitting on my shelf, upon his recommendation, but I have not gone through it yet. Perhaps there are some further details on the VT-BD connection, if any, in there. Thanks ...
by Cleric
Thu Oct 16, 2025 9:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

Federica, Rodriel, Ashvin, I won’t be able to write separate posts, so I’ll write in one place, and I hope I’ll be able to touch upon all the raised questions. Cleric, could you please clarify what you mean that you have no problem seeing Tomberg as deliberately “stepping back” from Devachan, and “st ...
by Cleric
Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

... ... Thank you, Rodriel and Ashvin. Rodriel, I’ve already signaled that I cannot speak from thorough knowledge of VTs lifelong work, but in this case, this is not even necessary because at the core of the discussion is a more principal question, which could apply to anyone else. We’re basically s ...
by Cleric
Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

I want to start with something that I intended to write earlier in connection with the perfection of the intellectual soul and the role of the Church, but I felt that at that point it would only add to the crossfire. Naturally, our experience of the intellectual and spiritual souls is bound to be a ...
by Cleric
Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:20 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 220
Views: 18204

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

I also want to add, by the way, that I tried to address some of what I thought was going in with VT in this post to Guney. That was after he shared a letter where VT clearly expressed exasperation with Anthroposophy and 'spiritual science', feeling it had become a hopelessly abstract and fossilized ...