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- Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:11 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
"Before Enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water". Yeah but, what gets enlightened?! Btw, frankly I'm hurt that my long pertinent comment that took a good half hour to compose didn't get a response ... I guess whatever it is that gets enlightened an...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:04 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
As Ben Iscatus said recently, when you find a mythology that resonates its like appreciating a piece of art. You contemplate and tweak and it gives you space for reverence and meaning - thats why I suggested a sub forum for Bernardo where we can do that. I dont really go for the butting of heads in...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:06 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
As Ben Iscatus said recently, when you find a mythology that resonates its like appreciating a piece of art. You contemplate and tweak and it gives you space for reverence and meaning - thats why I suggested a sub forum for Bernardo where we can do that. I dont really go for the butting of heads in ...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:09 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
Thanks again for pertinent comments. The theories of dissociation (which are only analogies anyway to DID) need to come into play because Bernardo has concluded there is a mind-at-large. But there is no observational or scientific evidence for a mind-at-large. Zero, zip, nada. It is only a hypothes...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:39 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
On what basis would we assume that shared reality is the same as private consciousness without accounting for the discrepancies. The discrepancies are accounted for by his theories of dissociation and metacognition. As Graham Oppy said in their discussion, we must all make a cost/benefit judgment b...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:39 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5030
Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Starbuck the only think I might disagree with (if I'm understanding you) is that Bernardo maintains that the very nature of Reality is 'moving towards' creation in a way that can be described as intelligent, whereas the typical modern physicalist will strip all teleology out of the reduction base. ...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:00 am
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
On what basis would we assume that shared reality is the same as private consciousness without accounting for the discrepancies. The discrepancies are accounted for by his theories of dissociation and metacognition. As Graham Oppy said in their discussion, we must all make a cost/benefit judgment b...
- Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:41 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5030
Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
'Blind will' doesn't mean meaningless or random. I know three people who need to grok that. Indeed, Why cant the intrinsic excitations of universal subjectivity 'look like' intelligence? Exactly. FB is denying that BK holds this position as you state it above. He is saying that BK's idealism incorp...
- Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
- Replies: 116
- Views: 5030
Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Indeed, Why cant the intrinsic excitations of universal subjectivity 'look like' intelligence?findingblanks wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:42 pm 'Blind will' doesn't mean meaningless or random. I know three people who need to grok that.
- Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:25 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
- Replies: 31
- Views: 1809
Re: Bernardo's Shared World Problem
The issue is there are certain characteristics like consistency, inflexibility, and constancy about shared reality that are not required or usually present in our private consciousness. This argues for the existence of something more than the mental unless we are contorting the meaning of "men...