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- Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:33 am
- Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
- Topic: Conceivability of zombies and idealism
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Re: Conceivability of zombies and idealism
Hi dara (hope you don't mind the short version of your name). According to BK, our brains are extrinsic appearances, i.e. phenomenal representations, of mental activity. The question in your topic is very closely related to another topic going on in the 'general' section ... Phenomenological ideali...
- Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:17 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Res Ipsa Loquitur: Kant vs. Goethe (and the World)
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Res Ipsa Loquitur: Kant vs. Goethe (and the World)
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/563929_c66277689d1f46fc99c540a088be1eef~mv2.jpg “Daring ideas are like chessmen moved forward. They may be beaten, but they may start a winning game.” [/b] - Goethe Immanuel Kant, for my money, ranks in the top five of most daring and influential philosophers of t...
- Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:12 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Regarding the first sentence, Steiner explicitly says that the "other than thinking given" is exactly the reality to which the ideas of thinking must correspond. I call it "actual reality" in a sense that it is something actually given to us directly in our direct 1-st person co...
- Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:37 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
"In short, Steiner's phenomenology is his epistemology, which differs from yours and Kant's." Technically, this is true and helpful. However, anybody who decides to read a book like PoF because Steiner pointed to it as his most important book will be surprised if they are told that Steine...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:58 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
The mystic's philosophy sees only one aspect of the picture. He sees meaning as coagulating packets of inexplicability which when sufficiently organized become meaning. The theist on the other hand sees everything as emanating from the pole of absolute meaning. All this remains quite abstract unles...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:50 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Eugene, This is direct quote from Steiner in last chapter of PoF. Please keep in mind these conclusions have been reached by rigorous phenomenology of perception-cognition throughout the rest of the book. So he is not starting from these conclusions, but what he has concluded about the essence of t...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:50 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Steiner is not concluding anything about the underlying essence of the "given" at this point - he is not claiming there is any essential nature of the given "other than thinking" which thinking must model for itself. That is made very clear in the first paragraph you quote - &qu...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:06 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Apparently, Ashvin has been misrepresenting Steiner's phenomenology-epistemology. The whole world as given to us (in our phenomenal 1-st person perspective), according to Steiner, in not only the universe of thinking activity and ideas that it manifests. There is something in the Given Reality that...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:02 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
To be clear, I am asking where you would place the meaning that one reflects when perceiving these thought-forms. Same answer? If so, then my follow up is where you place the 'story-maker'? It's the boundless, beginningless 'place' of the here and now. Also, let me specify that this image represent...
- Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:07 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
- Replies: 156
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Re: Phenomenological idealism: definitions of common terms
Anyway, this is an open question to anyone following along. It is not a trick question - it may help us converge on an understanding of "idea" in the sense of phenomenological idealism. Where would you 'place' ideas such as "conscious experience arises from energy" or "cons...