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by Stranger
Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
Replies: 227
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

I did the exercise, in fact, I've done it many times before. I know, Cleric, you are referring to a "mysterious" intuitive sense of "self-reference" and "self-agency" that most people carry deep in sub-conscious. I lost most of it some time ago. When I do "I think...
by Stranger
Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
Replies: 227
Views: 27179

Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

I would like to add a clarifying question here. When we take the "I" as something that needs to be defined and explained, it might be difficult to reach agreement. Let's look at something simpler. Eugene, can you think the words "I think" in a meditative manner while feeling the...
by Stranger
Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
Replies: 227
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

Ok, then I'll give an alternate definition of "I" (though I would say it amounts to the same as the one I gave earlier): the "I" is (at least, it might be more) awareness of permanence in what is experienced. I look around the room and see most of it is the same as what I saw ye...
by Stranger
Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:17 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

So "awareness-thinking-willing" is eternally existing. If you don't want to say it is an "entity", fine -- that is just a debate over the meaning of 'entity'. It is still an ontological claim, just as my starting point that "there is only ideational activity" is ontolo...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:30 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

If you look into your direct experience, you will not find any "real I" other than your idea of "I". The idea that there is some "I" behind the actions that cannot know itself "just like an eye that cannot see itself" is only an abstract idea that we have bee...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

No it's not a whole different discussion. This mindset reveals the core issue - and duality - from yet another angle. Preliminary philosophical speculation to "clear the (intellectual) way" is arbitrarily kept separate from the direct inner experience that should realize that same way. Th...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

Eugene adds the caveat that presence-awareness isn't sufficient and we should also add in the higher cognitive practice, but I can't imagine this concretely means anything. Why? Because he also wrote this to you - " If the "direct method" alone works for you without any reinforcement...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:28 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

Well, what you are describing is the span of attention, but not the presence-awareness in a sense that Rupert is referring to. Usually in our mundane state of consciousness, be it in children or adults, we completely disregard the presence-awareness. PS: Well, to be more precise, in our mundane mod...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:49 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

Let me put it this way. If we are walking around the house, thinking about a million things, and stub our toe on some object, you would say this reflects a lack of presence-awareness, right? When navigating the sensory world, we often have an instinctive presence-awareness that keeps us from bumpin...
by Stranger
Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND
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Re: KASTRUP AND SHELDRAKE ON THE COSMIC MIND

Correct, my post above wasn't regarding method(s), but more of the simplicity of what is required. Rupert Spira has his 'direct method', and there are techniques of meditation. My work offered a day of Mindfulness Meditation training - I asked the instructor what one should do if left with a sense ...