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by Steve Petermann
Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:39 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Jordan Peterson: Advocate for Spiritual Freedom
Replies: 21
Views: 1504

Re: Jordan Peterson: Advocate for Spiritual Freedom

And my apologies to Steve, but the below is exactly why no one can take religious theology, whether historic or modern or post-modern, seriously anymore. So, you're saying that the theology offered by the gospel writers and Paul shouldn't be taken seriously? They were historic theological presentat...
by Steve Petermann
Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:39 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness
Replies: 27
Views: 5055

Re: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness

Here's a quote from Llinás who believes the brain and nervous system developed to enable intelligent locomotion. For myself, I suspect that subjectivity is what the nervous system is all about, even at the most primitive levels of evolution. As I've said, subjectivity does seem to be important. It ...
by Steve Petermann
Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:50 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness
Replies: 27
Views: 5055

Re: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness

What was casually added to the same situation by subjective experience? It does give me a sense of myself having that pain but is there also something else? This is, of course, the philosophical zombie question that Pinker talks about. I accidently touch a hot stove. My hand immediately pulls back,...
by Steve Petermann
Sat Sep 11, 2021 12:30 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness
Replies: 27
Views: 5055

Re: Evolution and the causal efficacy of consciousness

Hi all, I would appreciate any comment, critique or discussion on this paper I wrote ( https://www.cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/view/704 ) which was published in Cosmos and History: The Journal of Natural and Social Philosophy a while ago. The topic of the causal efficacy of subje...
by Steve Petermann
Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:12 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

Guess I'm more intrigued by the One Mind having one never-ending blast of a masquerade party which all of its idea constructions are compelled to attend ... including this One. ;) This might be akin to a D&D tabletop (my son has been a dungeon master for years). What I saw was the fun and inter...
by Steve Petermann
Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:24 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

Judging from the comments of Cleric and Ashvin, I may have inadvertently created a misunderstanding with my Go game metaphor. I'm not suggesting that anyone has a privileged position over others to unambiguously recognize teleology. Ambiguity is part of life. As I mentioned about quantum mechanics w...
by Steve Petermann
Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:17 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

Cleric, I think I'm coming to better understand what you are saying. Clearly, much of it seems foreign to me because I haven't been emersed in "spiritual science". That, in and of itself, shouldn't necessarily deter someone from delving deeper, but I think there can be warning signs that a...
by Steve Petermann
Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:22 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

OK then, although a human mind has apparently evolved from earlier animal minds, when it comes to an amoeba, which can display much of the behaviour of a complex animal, what would you say that is associated from? My view is that everything from quarks to amoebas to humans and ETs is a mental creat...
by Steve Petermann
Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

Very interesting, Steve - a very useful metaphor! But where you say MAL is undifferentiated and "there is no association to be dissociated from", it seems to me that you are creating a problem that need not exist. A whole rubber band can be chopped up. If you're suggesting that a rubber b...
by Steve Petermann
Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:02 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism
Replies: 47
Views: 3406

Re: Dr. Bernardo Kastrup, Idealism vs Materialism

I think I can understand why Bernardo took up the analogy of dissociation. It offers a readily available picture of the One mind becoming many. However, it breaks down very quickly when we consider his ontology of Mind-at-Large. In his ontology, M@L is undifferentiated. There is no association to be...