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by AshvinP
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

I guess you missed my quote of Hoffman. Although the interface theory is compatible with idealism, it is not idealism, because it proposes no specific model of objective reality, but leaves the nature of objective reality as an open scientific problem. Jim, I keep pointing this out and you keep ign...
by AshvinP
Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

Thanks for demonstrating my point precisely. You don't understand the meaning of naïve realism. You've made up your own definition. Actually thinking about it, I can see why you fall for idealism. By your worldview, you can made up what you want and it can all be true. And everyone else's view can ...
by AshvinP
Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

Jim, perception can mean more than apprehension by the senses - it can also mean apprehension by the mind (understanding). Some dictionaries extend the definition. In the context of naïve realism, which is the context this is being discussed,it is clearly about perception by the senses. In philosop...
by AshvinP
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:22 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

Actually, on second thought; I'm with Jim; ITP is only a part of Hoffman's chain of reasoning. ITP by itself does not require consciousness being fundamental. Instead, ITP it part of what ALLOWS for consciousness being fundamental. I did not claim ITP "requires consciousness being fundamental&...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:18 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

perception the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses . That wouldn't normally encompass the "inner world". Nevertheless, your argument still is beside the point. Naïve realism believes we can become directly aware of objects in the external world through th...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:58 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Essay: What Do "I" Know? (Part A)
Replies: 4
Views: 581

Re: Essay: What Do "I" Know? (Part A)

Ashvin, Great stuff, thank you! This one is definitely being given to a relative who is struggling and will be familiar with most of the characters referenced in your essay. In an interaction last night, I was striving the find the words and could only mumble "incomplete", "woefully ...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

Please, when you read what is written below, resist the first sentiment which pops into your mind. It will be - " this guy is an arrogant idealist making bold claims against my worldview, so I will assume he is wrong before reading what he writes and then find ways to support my assumption &quo...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?
Replies: 55
Views: 6287

Re: Are there any SIMPLE books refuting what Bernardo calls "The materialism of qualities"?

Right. Again, he was making an argument against qualitative materialism, or what is commonly called naïve realism. I guess we actually agree. But this is a straw man argument because few materialists are naïve realists. Also, I am not sure calling this "qualitative materialism" is even co...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:34 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Knowledge
Replies: 32
Views: 6576

Re: Knowledge

A different aspect of knowing is that it's never absolute. YOU (the knower) decides whether to treat a specific concept "the concept of there being a cat in the box" as true or not. There's always probability that you're wrong; but for practical purposes , In order to get anywhere in life...
by AshvinP
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:46 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Essay: What Do "I" Know? (Part A)
Replies: 4
Views: 581

Essay: What Do "I" Know? (Part A)

https://i.ibb.co/6w0yq0q/DE02-October2017-SRSC.jpg “The only true Wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.” ― Socrates. The above quote is only understood if we follow its logic through carefully. We know nothing, as Socrates keenly observed. We don't even know the full extent of the ten words in his...