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by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
Topic: Hierarchies of Dissociation
Replies: 31
Views: 1690

Re: Hierarchies of Dissociation

Ashvin taught: "It is patently clear no scientific rigor goes into BK's analysis, only loose metaphors which are eventually conflated for that which they were originally intended to only be abstract spatiotemporal symbols of." Okay, so we know a couple things: 1) BK's work has no scientifi...
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:05 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

Starbuck, yes, for sure, Bernardo would see the process of evolution as much more creative than, say, the kind of spiritualist who has a model that states certain beings already had a very clear goal of getting the human form to come about. And there is a massive spectrum in between. Rudolf Steiner ...
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: If thinking could mean...
Replies: 12
Views: 509

Re: If thinking could mean...

Yeah, the interesting thing is noticing how specifically a given symbol will both carry forward the intricacy and how it won't. At the same freakin' time :)
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:25 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

It is fascinating to see the way people want Bernardo's core purpose in life to be more like other people's core purpose in life. Bernardo could not be more clear or honest about what his arguments are intended for. When Rudolf Steiner got a haircut, he wasn't trying to learn about insects. Imagine ...
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:08 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Anthroposophy for Dummies
Replies: 321
Views: 277919

Re: Anthroposophy for Dummies

Hey Cleric. I thought I remember reading that you had created a sub-group for general discussion of Steiner. Is this it?
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:06 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

Hey Ben, I see there is a really great conversation about the possibility of layers of dissociation within BK's model. It is in the discussion room that is for focusing on BK specifically. What a relief that there is a spot that specifically asks all of us to focus on one topic! Do you know if there...
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:02 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

Starbuck the only think I might disagree with (if I'm understanding you) is that Bernardo maintains that the very nature of Reality is 'moving towards' creation in a way that can be described as intelligent, whereas the typical modern physicalist will strip all teleology out of the reduction base. K...
by findingblanks
Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:58 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

One of the reasons that Rudolf Steiner sang the praises of the pure materialist Ernst Haeckel was because he simply loved his thoughts. Guess what, Ernst Haeckel's thoughts were inferential and speculative, linked by logic and grounded in 100% materialist assumptions about the nature of reality. Who...
by findingblanks
Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

Starbuck, I would say that. And I think that the intrinsic excitations might by necessity fit the definition of 'intelligent,' especially as BK tends to use it.
by findingblanks
Tue Dec 21, 2021 11:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!
Replies: 116
Views: 4488

Re: Bernardo vs Graham Oppy!!

"So what I am claiming is not all disparaging to BK or singling him out." I didn't say you were disparaging him. I said you were 100% incorrect that BK's view rules out top-down involution of Spirit. The fact is that BK has acknowledged that there could be layers of dissociation that creat...