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- Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:26 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: (Medium-Long) Infernal Loops of the Abstract Intellect
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2753
Re: (Medium-Long) Infernal Loops of the Abstract Intellect
To be honest, despite reading pretty much everything you and Cleric have written in recent months, I don't really get what it means to "ascend by thinking into more fluid meaning (active)". I get that there may be a depth of structure to our observations and there may be higher modes of t...
- Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:51 am
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
- Replies: 34
- Views: 43558
Re: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
Isn't it better for you to simply state this as your position, rather than attribute it to Christian spiritual tradition, even though no one understands the latter that way? Then, we have to ask ourselves, if we start with the conviction the thinking-self is illusion, how likely are we to understan...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:18 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
- Replies: 34
- Views: 43558
Re: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
There is nothing about "surrendering every past, present, and future thought, sensation, perception" in the text, and much about the opposite. This is one of those 'debates' that it's pointless to have until the other person first realizes they don't really know anything about the topic.....
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:00 am
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
- Replies: 34
- Views: 43558
Re: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
I'm not a Biblical scholar but I disagree - when Abraham climbed the mountain top, he was asked to surrender everything, including every past, present and futer thought, sensation and perception Spirit refers to transcendent self. And Jesus said “my yoke is easy” and “Even the least among you can do...
- Wed Feb 02, 2022 6:13 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
- Replies: 34
- Views: 43558
Re: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
Ashwin wants to preserve/enrich the separate self at all costs, where as spiritual traditions suggest the separate self doesn't exist except as a thought with content of a separate self. Yes, there is a major difference here of intent with BK, too: BK would like the separate self (the dream alter) ...
- Wed Feb 02, 2022 5:19 pm
- Forum: Bernardo gets a room of his own
- Topic: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
- Replies: 34
- Views: 43558
Re: Bernardo's talk with Lance Butler
Yes, I agree that we might need to "reduce" Ash's "flights of reason and imagination" to something we can more easily get to grips with. Perhaps we might summarise Ash's stance as follows: (A) "I can only experience my own thinking. It is an unwarranted abstraction to move ...
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 5:41 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Greer post on philosophy
- Replies: 64
- Views: 19791
Re: Greer post on philosophy
That was also why Rudolf Steiner, whose ideas we’ll be discussing in future posts, launched his career with a volume, The Philosophy of Freedom, in which he tried to prove that thinking really could grasp the objective truth about the world . It was a gallant attempt, and he carried it out about as...
- Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:54 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3466
Re: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
Yes I agree re the meaningful ideation of stone, throwing, etc. However, the sense world has to contain some information or else 2+ individuals couldn't asgree on stone, throwing, etc. My question is how can we know how much ideation occurs, how much information is contained in sense world. My exper...
- Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:01 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3466
Re: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
You are referring to chaos/interpretation/meaning of the content - by 'chaos in the sense world' I thought you were referring to the 'thrown stone' and sight perceptions..
- Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:19 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
- Replies: 13
- Views: 3466
Re: Watching this video re Antrhroposophy
How do we know or establish the sense world is a 'disconnected chaos'? This seems more like a Materialist position - the world is a-swirl of sub atomic particles or probability waves.