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- Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:44 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: A clean room for a specific exploration
- Replies: 80
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Re: A clean room for a specific exploration
I do think those other people we mentioned experienced what you are calling the noumenon. I do not believe that a person has to have already a linguistic or conceptual framework about the noumenon in order to participate any aspect of it. I think there are advantages and disadvantages to having any...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: A clean room for a specific exploration
- Replies: 80
- Views: 5640
Re: A clean room for a specific exploration
I do think those other people we mentioned experienced what you are calling the noumenon. I do not believe that a person has to have already a linguistic or conceptual framework about the noumenon in order to participate any aspect of it. I think there are advantages and disadvantages to having any...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:06 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: More than an explanatory model ?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 707
Re: More than an explanatory model ?
Does this silence say : "you don't know what you're talking about, young Padawan" ? * I thought about my own questionand why it might sound irrelavant, and here is my two cents : Bernardo's model is an ontological one, it's not an "explanatory model". Science is an explanatory m...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:48 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: A clean room for a specific exploration
- Replies: 80
- Views: 5640
Re: A clean room for a specific exploration
Hi there, "I know a whole lot of people have perceived and described the evolution of consciousness..." You added: "I am talking about the accounts of what was directly perceived after those 'higher' modes of consciousness were attained." and then: "Has anyone gone beyond t...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:49 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Finding My Monkey
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2475
Re: Finding My Monkey
In Kastrup's model we can say that qualities don't exist until a dissociated alter is created. The qualities 'fall out' in the living interaction and interpenetration of M@L and the alter. Before the alter exists, those qualities might be thought of as potentialities of M@L. Might we that M@L itsel...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:31 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anthroposophy for Dummies
- Replies: 327
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Re: Anthroposophy for Dummies
I'm not sure you are being entirely fair to BK wrt physical death. He suggests that upon death our "whirlpool" is dispersed into the broader conscious environment with the Markov blanket being dissolved. After death, we have access to other conscious states that were formerly "outsid...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:58 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: A clean room for a specific exploration
- Replies: 80
- Views: 5640
Re: A clean room for a specific exploration
Yes, off the top of my head these are people who I think have given us material to ponder that is engaging with related even if their interpretation aren't perfect: Steiner Barfield Talbott Holdrege Spira Wilber Klocek etc And I think many many other people have done great work in helping us experi...
- Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:36 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: A clean room for a specific exploration
- Replies: 80
- Views: 5640
Re: A clean room for a specific exploration
Hi there, "Based on your past comments, it seems like you just feel these things are unknowable in principle, but perhaps I am wrong about that." I have to be brief due to context. I believe that there is one reality that can be perceived in much wider and deeper ways than human on the wh...
- Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:32 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Questions about higher consciousness
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2209
Re: Questions about higher consciousness
edit: I just woke up, apologies if I'm snappy. I missed Cleric's post and that seems to make a greater deal of sense to me on first glance. I should probably take my time with all of this Yeah, you really should. I also probably should not have indulged some of your comments so soon in your process...
- Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:03 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Questions about higher consciousness
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2209
Re: Questions about higher consciousness
I trust that however important my desires are to me I'm definitely not whole, so I'm perfectly in the green at least concerning that. As for the second comment, I'll mull over the existential query that poises me. I certainly think BK's model is sound and I also believe there is value in our atomiz...