Search found 2023 matches
- Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:13 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
Soul_of_Shu, I have been struggling with fully understanding this criticism. However, it was an intuition of the same problem highlighted here which brought me to this forum. I then tried to write it down as a concise criticism to analytical idealism https://metakastrup.org/viewtopic.php?p=17172#p1...
- Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:27 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
These so-called 'debates' or 'dialogos' they have with each other are just another symptom of the problem, in my view, which is the notion that abstract intellectual models of higher worlds can substitute for endeavoring to actually experience those worlds from within. Well no, I don't conclude tha...
- Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:46 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
As much as I like Pageau, we shouldn't confuse his approach for the spiritual path of intuitive thinking. The latter simply isn't satisfied with a "symbolic world", but wants to actively touch the contours of what is being symbolized, in full consciousness. In other words, it wants to awa...
- Mon Jun 06, 2022 12:28 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
There is a recent interview between BK and Pageau (Orthodox Christian) as well - I haven't watched it yet, and not sure if I will. What you relayed from BK sums up "why AI is flawed". If I hadn't known, I would have guessed that was asked of and answered by an a-gnostic materialist philos...
- Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:22 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
What does the materialist say? Before you were born, you existed as only potential in the unified field of matter/energy. Once you were conceived or born, the matter/energy combined and differentiated in such a way as to create a new living being, eventually capable of refleftive thoughts which sim...
- Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:14 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
OK, above my paygrade methinks. Does ontology do the contra dance in framing a fundamental physicalism vs idealism problematic? Intuitively, I feel that it does but I don't have the lingo to discuss it philosophically. Well insofar as physicalism and idealism offer distinctly contrasting and contra...
- Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:19 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
No boundary, no manifestation. No manifestation, no dichotomy. No? I'm referring here to a subjectified Mind><objectified Mind relational dynamic—not about a demarcation point between two distinct forms— and I'm now seeing better joepoe's point with the problematic abstraction being any so-called '...
- Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:55 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
It's not about what BK is consciously proposing, but how his 'objective idealism', with 'dissociated alters', functions for all intents and purposes. As the OP says, it makes the exact same abstraction of materialism-dualism, but in the form of "atomized subject beholding ideas of Big Subject ...
- Thu Jun 02, 2022 5:01 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
- Replies: 75
- Views: 4289
Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
A question that comes to mind is this: Is BK's model proposing a subject/object dichotomy , or rather a subject><object dynamic conceived in and of Mind, seemingly integral to there being an evolving relational process, i.e. life . Does the lion hunt and devour the lamb, unless the lamb is objectifi...