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by Federica
Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

I would like to take advantage of my lower position here to ask you a question, Rodriel, which would otherwise get unasked. You have previously called yourself "no great seer", and stated that much of Steiner's results of spiritual-scientific inquiry is "still unverified content" for you. You have ...
by Federica
Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:37 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

AshvinP wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 2:44 pm ...
You were navigating plain West, but now you are giving the rudder a 45 degrees shift towards North. Still bringing the bodies into your argument, but now the direction is adjusted and what primarily counts are not the bodies and their cosmetic operations, but the inner work. Yes, that's good!
by Federica
Sat Nov 08, 2025 1:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

Kaje977 wrote: Sat Nov 08, 2025 10:06 am ...

Thanks, Kaje, great post! Really helpful to get a sense of the general feeling of an entire generation, as you have described in vivid pictures. All you say makes sense to me.
by Federica
Sat Nov 08, 2025 4:42 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

This cuts short any attempts to twist Rudolf Steiner's throat to make him spit in hindsight what he never intended or said. I was not even searching for this. I was scrolling Substack. And someone's quote rolled forth, from GA 187 - How Can Humanity Find the Christ Again?: The Entrance of ...
by Federica
Fri Nov 07, 2025 8:16 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

The Core of the Question

At the barest level, this entire question can be seen as follows. People need to find the Sun Being Christ by first exerting their thinking, not the other way around. The other way around is mostly barred. One doesn’t find the reason and the motivation to meditate within the traditional faithful a ...
by Federica
Thu Nov 06, 2025 5:51 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
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Side Note - Rejection of the Marian Dogma

As said, I think exoteric events are secondary in the context of this discussion. However, since it’s happening right now, and it's not a minor thing, it's interesting to take note of another sign of the RCC’s will to expand its reach and consensus - besides the already mentioned signs. The day bef ...
by Federica
Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:04 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

That is not correct - the subtle half-messaging is how Cleric has described it multiple times. In fact, I have suggested it is better thought of in terms of the 'attempts and hints' that Cleric used to describe the autonomous and spontaneous projects. No one denies what you are saying. As I have ...
by Federica
Thu Nov 06, 2025 2:38 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

It struck me immediately that we cannot treat VT's expressions as directly comparable to most spiritual scientific teachings from Steiner. On the one hand, we criticize VT for his subtle half-messaging approach, but on the other, we forget about this approach when evaluating the meaning of his ...
by Federica
Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:41 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

I will chime in here again briefly to point out that this is another instance where Tomberg's pedagogical style is misinterpreted as operating at the level of fact in the manner of Steinerian spiritual science. In saying that evil cannot be known it its essence, Tomberg is reiterating the ...
by Federica
Thu Nov 06, 2025 4:41 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Tomberg and Anthroposophy
Replies: 438
Views: 41838

Re: Tomberg and Anthroposophy

The point is that imaginative cognition and arcana cognition intersect but do not coincide. What I have described as astral CGOL referes to the arcana experience. If it doesn't coincide with imaginative cognition, then what would you compare it to? You said it isn't comparable to lucid dreaming ...