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by Jim Cross
Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Lastly, what does the model do? What are the consequences of understanding consciousness in this way? Once you have packed the whole of personal experience and labeled the package “model”, what is the usefulness of this act? Did you miss this sentence from the article? Could the evolution of consci...
by Jim Cross
Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:09 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Are you suggesting that 'nature' builds and evaluates models and searches for solutions?
Lorenzop,

Actually I should have just answered "yes"? That is what I am suggesting. It's called evolution.
by Jim Cross
Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:50 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Of course, if our interest only lies in having models for others to gawk at, rather than confronting the modeling activity itself, then all of the above will "make no sense", because we simply have no desire for it to make sense. Of course, one of my points about calling this limited soli...
by Jim Cross
Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:47 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

I not sure I understand your article - Are you suggesting that 'nature' builds and evaluates models and searches for solutions, and that consciousness is such a model. That would make you and I machine learning modules for some greater cause. You would have to rewrite biological evolution and most ...
by Jim Cross
Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

I see. So in that case what is your position on the nature of qualia? Would you consider something akin to pan-psychism, where the qualitative potential is intrinsic characteristic of reality and it is only a matter of it entering into complex enough dynamics such that this potential shapes itself ...
by Jim Cross
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:29 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Cleric, One other note of clarification. Fields are continuous and the same everywhere. They don't need a place to focus or come together. For example, a radio transmitter is sending out a music program. You might be twenty miles north of the transmitter and I might be twenty miles south but the mus...
by Jim Cross
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:57 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

Re: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Cleric, I'm more or less agnostic and without opinion on the Kant thing. Obviously our models have to match reality-itself to some degree or we couldn't survive or operate in the world. Since the model comes from reality-itself, it would reflect it in certain ways. But the entire notion of reality-i...
by Jim Cross
Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:13 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness
Replies: 51
Views: 2761

What Wind Tunnels Can Tell Us About Consciousness

Keys points: - Brains must be doing some form of non-classical computing. - The form the computing takes is a physical representative model. - Consciousness is the model of reality, not a product or side effect of the model. Some may enjoy the turbulence (eddy) analogy and a sort of limited solipsis...
by Jim Cross
Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:00 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed
Replies: 75
Views: 3690

Re: Why I believe Analytic Idealism is flawed

What does the materialist say? Before you were born, you existed as only potential in the unified field of matter/energy. Once you were conceived or born, the matter/energy combined and differentiated in such a way as to create a new living being, eventually capable of refleftive thoughts which sim...
by Jim Cross
Tue May 17, 2022 1:31 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Spellcheck?
Replies: 2
Views: 459

Re: Spellcheck?

Spelll chek werks finne fer mee.