Philosophical Speculations

Hi Ashvin Gurdjieff's main aim as a teacher was to first wake people up. When you read memoirs of his pupils, and his pupils' pupils, you see how the pupils are deliberately put into difficult physical and/or emotional situations to shake them out of their sleep. It was a ruthless business. This cou...

Hi Ashvin Gurdjieff's work has been highly misappropriated. I've read all his works in detail, and first-person reporting from his direct pupils, and this is nothing like that. Here and there this post uses some of Gurdjieff's special vocabulary, and does draw on the general directions of his work. ...

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3. Why does Steiner's name have such a negative connotation? Most people think he's a weirdo. Just as Ashvin noted, anyone who dares today to speak of depth of reality will be condemned as a weirdo. This is the reason also why BK prefers to stay on the borderline. This is the reason why most spirit...

I don't see why it would be easier to define consciousness than god. We experience consciousness, and we experience God (whatever it is). These are axiomatic. There is no reasonable definition of either which puts them outside experience (although most try to put them outside direct and conscious k...

Hi Ashvin
Thanks for this discussion. I appreciate the time you put into it.

Mike, Of course we can put it to rest. I am not forcing you to discuss anything. But you did say everything I represented, because I literally quoted you without adding any words or taking them out of context. It is most bewildering to me when people write something in plain text, and then come bac...

Mike, The whole discussion has been about pointing you to the fact that the "multiple levels", which certainly exist, do not only need to be "outlined" as intellectual diagrams to speculate over, but can be concretely and consciously experienced. We can actually grow into those ...

Mike, how do you feel about the esoteric quote-wisdom I shared - "Do not stop on any step, no matter how high, or it will become a snare." Despite its simplicity, or because of it, I feel like that sums up the entire argument between you and Cleric. He is saying, "we don't have to st...

I'm sorry to always harp on about this, it's clearly not of interest to most people here. I was intending to reply to other things in your post, but this is already far too long. I think this would be a good time for me to take a break from this forum. Mike, how do you feel about the esoteric quote...