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by Martin_
Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:10 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic
Replies: 47
Views: 32514

Re: Cleric and Eugene on "Thinking" and The Central Topic

mikekatz wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:33 pm [stuff]
Interesting. Especially the sleepwalking/ split he experienced when he was out on a walk.
Will for sure look up this work.

Thank you.
by Martin_
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Replies: 49
Views: 2275

Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art

Do I get a cookie if I can guess what you mean?
by Martin_
Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: Deeper reading, Steeper Art
Replies: 49
Views: 2275

Re: Deeper reading, Steeper Art

Read more closely and you'll make an important correction to your interpretation of what I'm doing. I know you feel 100% that you reflected back the point i was making, but you did not. You can do this. I sort of need to see at this point that you really can pivot and start afresh. OK :) Starting a...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:31 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

Edit: written without knowledge of Cleric's post above. Another way to put it: "Funnel" is not a theory. It's a desperate attempt do describe an aspect of a particular experience. More specifically what is experienced when one observes their own thinking. When I do that, I experience somet...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:16 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

Martin, Thanks that somebody tried to express the Central Topic in some jargon-free manner with straightforward language. However, this funnel model is an abstraction and theory itself... You completely ignored what he wrote - " We came to the point where we saw ". Not everyone is making ...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

My interpretation of the central topic was: "Let's start with observing our thinking and see what we can say" We came to the point where we saw that thinking (using small 't' here) isn't fully free. It's operating in something what could be described as a funnel, and the nature/state of th...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:04 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

That's great. This is Zen. But note that you would also need to drop the assumption of the existence of any non-conscious "world stuff" existing beyond your experience, because all you know and can ever know is only your conscious experience. My personal take: I'm ok with taking assumptio...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:28 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

Yea right. "My intuition is true intuition, your intuition is false intuition". The end of philosophy. Yes. The problem with experience is that my experience is different from your experience. There is now no objective truth just each self-experience imagining self-truths. The argument fo...
by Martin_
Tue Dec 14, 2021 2:03 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: The Central Topic
Replies: 325
Views: 148655

Re: The Central Topic

Yea right. "My intuition is true intuition, your intuition is false intuition". The end of philosophy. I didn't say ours was "true", but that you are failing to understand what Cleric even means by "intuition" or higher cognition. All of your responses to him are born ...
by Martin_
Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:00 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: (Short) The High Ideal of Metamorphosis
Replies: 11
Views: 729

Re: (Short) The High Ideal of Metamorphosis

Only when the images on which we concentrate feel completely and tightly in-phase with our thinking activity, we can say that they are completely our own creation and thus they tightly reflect the thinking gestures that we perform This is what it was. (Have to be brief. Power outage today..., ) I a...