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- Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:19 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
Here are some more thoughts just to make the relation of my other responses to the above more explicit. We should be clear that Cleric never says "the pictorial symbol🚨is one level up closer to the Word", as if that symbol hangs in isolation from the entire meaningful context, explicated in word-sy ...
- Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:58 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
It’s been the same discussion pattern a few times now: 1. You attack my propositions with a challenging question 2. I address the question precisely, to show why and how I still propose what I propose 3. At which point, you abandon it, to start a new attack from another angle --- The last iteration: ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:26 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
And so I find the cycle most estranged from our human scale to be the life and death cycle. I definitely can’t get any phenomenological sense of continuity of consciousness/memory beyond this one present life I’m living. I know, of course, that this is possible with enough spiritual development, bu ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:45 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
In general, whenever we isolate a part of the perceptual spectrum and point toward that part as specifically derailing our conscious thinking efforts, I feel that something is off - we are subtly redirecting attention from the responsibility of our own selfish and myopic soul tendencies (which ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:18 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
- Replies: 294
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Re: Saving the materialists
In general, whenever we isolate a part of the perceptual spectrum and point toward that part as specifically derailing our conscious thinking efforts, I feel that something is off - we are subtly redirecting attention from the responsibility of our own selfish and myopic soul tendencies (which ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 3:04 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
- Replies: 294
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Re: Saving the materialists
As I proposed, this is yet another cycle, lying below the cycle of awakening to our thoughts (and remembering the dead ones, the receding ones, possibly noticing they were of a distracting nature). That’s why I said we are not talking about the same thing. In this even smaller cycle we have even l ...
- Wed Jan 01, 2025 1:55 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
What is evident, Federica, is that you are not assessing the meaning of 'intuitive clarity' properly and therefore reaching erroneous conclusions about the gradient of our existential rhythms, which can potentially lead to great misorientation. This has been repeated in practically every recent ...
- Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:29 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
- Replies: 294
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Re: Saving the materialists
Federica, I do want to eventually address the rest of your original post, but this sub-discussion has revealed a huge discrepancy in phenomenological understanding and I hope we are both interested in resolving it before attempting to move on. In fact, this discrepancy is probably related to all of ...
- Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
Federica, It's not clear to me whether you are speaking of a more metaphysical description of the way things are and how they can be understood at the highest level of Intuitive cognition, or rather whether you are speaking phenomenologically of the starting point from which we can gradually expand ...
- Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:33 am
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Saving the materialists
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Re: Saving the materialists
Surely, if we reason in terms of ability to transform the flow of becoming, the only starting point for lucid inquiries that lead to self-transformation is the rhythm of thoughts nested inside the daily cycle. Only from there the exceptional state can be approached and the nature of reality ...