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- Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:11 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4023
Re: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
Dave, For many years it has been understood that slow waves are associated with deep sleep and faster waves are associated with wakefulness. Dreaming sleep actually also involves faster spikes in certain brain regions. Deep sleep is similar to the effects of anesthesia. So nothing is surprising tha...
- Sat Mar 20, 2021 4:33 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4023
Re: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
This is literally the same argument as before. Like really, it’s just “anesthesia does stuff to the brain and produces a state of unconscious, thus consciousness isn’t always present”. The studies posted don’t change that argument or bolster it, all they do is give evidence for the mechanisms of ho...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:46 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4023
Re: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
But as the research I just listed directly implies through the experiment that no neurons firing no consciousness, I feel a stronger counterargument is needed on behalf of idealism. If a study was truly able to prove that neurons produce consciousness it would be plastered everywhere you could thin...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:18 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Directed Attention
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2435
Re: Directed Attention
This may be of interest here, from the same guy who recently interviewed Bernardo for over 4 hours, wherein the claim is made that there is no collapse of the wave function ... https://youtu.be/r2ct0zv_M-I Just want to chime in and say this is a really good channel. He interviewed a very smart woma...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 7:15 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Directed Attention
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2435
Re: Directed Attention
Confusion is not in Radin's experiment, but in the minds trying to interpret it. Your formulation is not a very coherent projection. The OP article does not discuss Radin's experiments, it brushes them of with the usual faith based sociological woo of pseudoskeptic materialists. Conservative sociol...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:38 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Directed Attention
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2435
Re: Directed Attention
I agree with this, I'm more referencing the attitude in physics that a theory of everything was on the cusp of being found and that the big parts of science were about to be over. As for your second point, I honestly have no idea and I'd need to hear what Bernardo has to say about it in order to di...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:35 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Directed Attention
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2435
Re: Directed Attention
I don’t think anyone thought they had a clue what was going on 30 years ago - they just implemented the “shut up and calculate “protocol”. In terms of the “why doesn’t MAL” collapse the wave function, surely MAL is often one of the “mental agents” in the interaction. I’m not sure how Bernardo would...
- Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:18 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Directed Attention
- Replies: 28
- Views: 2435
Re: Directed Attention
My biggest question for idealists who believe consciousness collapses the wave function is how come the MaL doesn't collapse it? I really don't think this interpretation of quantum mechanics is what helps the idealist position. Bohr took a subjectivist approach to his philosophy of QM without taking...
- Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:57 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4023
Re: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
When these feelings erupt within an ayahuasca session, they can manifest as overwhelming sensations and emotions that seem unrelated to any known circumstance. Arising in disconnected, incoherent form, they’re unaccompanied by any sense of meaning. The chaotic nature of certain difficult ayahuasca ...
- Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:56 pm
- Forum: General Discussions
- Topic: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
- Replies: 37
- Views: 4023
Re: Anesthesia, EEG versus CBF
You're conflating a chaotic experience with a chaotic brain state here. You could present a jumbled mess of something and I could percieve it as an image while my brain is completely fine meanwhile my brain could be in a jumbled state and I'd probably be in a state similar to anesthesia. I don't th...