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by Cosmin Visan
Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:20 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
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Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

We haven't encountered any alien life forms, much less one with a visual apparatus. We certainly have not interviewed any alien life form, tried to map their colors with ours, etc. The claim that aliens must necessarily see their sun as yellow and sky as blue is baseless, doesn't even rise to the l...
by Cosmin Visan
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:58 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

The only conclusion that I can draw is that you still don't understand self-reference. Otherwise you will see how by necessity it leads to qualia. Your model on the other hand just postulates qualia as given. You cannot do that. You need to explain why they are a given.
by Cosmin Visan
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:23 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

But notice that what you say is quite decoupled from your theory of "I am" recursion. I can write the exact same words as you wrote above and claim them as support for my model. My model is also contextual - that's why I described it as fractal. The vibrations form nested modes, as octave...
by Cosmin Visan
Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:19 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

lorenzop wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:30 am Curious, did you read this theory(s) somewhere or are you making this up? It doesn't pass any basic smell test.
Why ?
by Cosmin Visan
Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:17 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

No, that model doesn't explain qualia. Qualia are meaning, and as such, they appear relative to contexts. For example, the way red and green appeared is as such: initially animals were seeing the world in shades-of-gray. But the problem was that it was difficult to find food. They could have had an ...
by Cosmin Visan
Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

Another point to add that might be revealing for how this works. I didn't write about in any of my papers. So say you are at a traffic light and you see the red and green lights. What is it that you think you see ? You think you see a red and green traffic light, right ? But that's not what you see....
by Cosmin Visan
Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:11 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

So the main problem that you raise is how to see a new color. My theory accounts for this, and I even mentioned it in the paper: if you want to know how it is to ride a roller-coaster you need to ride a roller-coaster. But maybe this is trivial and you want specifically to know how to see a new colo...
by Cosmin Visan
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:16 am
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

Yes, thank you. What comes naturally to an individual would be more effortless than what does not. So, for example, someone who loves keeping fit will find the training required to be more effortless than someone who by nature finds physical activity irksome. There are all sorts of limitations, eve...
by Cosmin Visan
Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

Ben, Let's take the math problem 47 x 33 = ?. This problem remains a fragmented series of number perceptions until our active effort stirs the ideal waters. No answer that resolves the fragmentation will simply manifest in our consciousness if we patiently stare at the numbers. I guess you wouldnt ...
by Cosmin Visan
Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:28 pm
Forum: Topic-specific Discourse
Topic: How Self-Reference Builds the World
Replies: 53
Views: 43597

Re: How Self-Reference Builds the World

But knowing that the conscious sub-stratum is eternal doesn’t guarantee that there will be continuity of consciousness across the threshold of death (which demands integration of memory). In the same manner one can say that quantum fields are eternal so there’s nothing to worry about. But who cares...