Wow! Existence has always existed

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Lauriso
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Re: Wow! Existence has always existed

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Eugene I wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:40 pm But imagine if you find the answer. This is it, there is no mystery anymore. Would not it be boring? :)
Actually no, I think I would feel much better having an answer to this particular question. I could still enjoy the neverending creativity inherent in the world.
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David_Sundaram
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Re: Wow! Existence has always existed

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Lauriso wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:50 am
Eugene I wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:40 pm But imagine if you find the answer. This is it, there is no mystery anymore. Would not it be boring? :)
Actually no, I think I would feel much better having an answer to this particular question. I could still enjoy the neverending creativity inherent in the world.
LOGIC suggests that this dis-agreement is just a function of selective conceptual 'projection', or 'framing'.

What is 'hidden' 'behind' the as yet to be expeerienced (i.e. yet to be 'seen') next 'corner' is always a 'mystery'; that is, until one 'creatively' gets 'around' it and so expeeriences/sees what's there, thereby rendering that 'known' and so no longer 'mysterious'.

Peter Jones
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Re: Wow! Existence has always existed

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Lauriso wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:51 pm Thanks for the reply, yes, I seem forced to agree with that conclusion, but for some reason it produces anxiety in me - I don't feel safe in a world so incomprehensible. It is said that the psychotic drowns in the waters the mystic swims in... rings true to me.

I tried reading Kant but found it very difficult. Is there any specific place in the Upanishads, where this is discussed, you could point me to?

And, if it cannot be thought, what CAN be done with it?
Aha. The inconceivable and unsayable nature of the Ultimate does not render it incomprehensible. This was Kant's error. This phenomenon, even if for us it is just a theoretical entity, allows us to make sense of metaphysics.

As for what can be done with it, I hope to show this in the book I'm just finishing. What can be done is the construction of a systematic global theory that answers all metaphysical questions. The Perennial philosophy is what can be done with it.

The Upanishads are quite holographic in that the topic is always the same and there is much repetition, so you can start anywhere and just browse through them. For some analysis there is Prof. Radhkrishnan's Philosophy of the Upanishads.

Also, while the Tao cannot be thought it is nevertheless possible to think about what cannot be thought. After all, a phenomenon that cannot be thought has a very clear and precise definition and there cannot be two of them.

Such a vast topic. Your questions deserve longer answers. .
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