Eugene I wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:34 pm
But there is a level that transcends even the Self, from which the Self becomes transparent and seen for what it is - a construct of cognitive patterns and ideations, albeit patterns and ideations of a harmonious higher-level cognition. Once transcended, it does not cease to live and function, it is not rejected or annihilated, but the liberation from its patterns on a higher level is still attained, allowing it to be transformed into a liberated Self.
And once we realize our innate freedom in the nature of consciousness, all kinds of self - both ego-self and higher Self, become transcended and transfigured into the form of the liberated Self.
Eugene, I think we speak of very different kinds of transcendence here
What you say sounds a little like transcendence is a matter of being fed up with ego-life and deciding to do something more interesting after death. I'll try to draw a picture of what we need to pass through in order to reach a point that really transcends our perspective within the Solar system.
As said in the previous post, our initial experiences behind our ego-face are quite trivial and much more like self-psychoanalysis. We're simply being more and more objective about our soul organism - our ideas, desires, opinions, prejudices, motives, etc. But through intellectual analysis we can go only to a certain length. From then on we already need the forms of higher cognition. We have to cognize through pictorial Imaginations the deeper structure of being. Here we can use again as analogy my IFS post
As we assume our stable position within the psychic realm we're in position to discern that different domains of our soul and spirit life have different structure. So to speak, we're in different 'parts' of our soul when we think and feel about our personal life and survival, about our relations with friends and family, about humanity as a whole and the great evolutionary journey of the man. When we begin to discern these different forms of spiritual activity we begin to recognize Imaginatively the soul organs.
As we further distance from our personal life, the soul organs also become something different. As long as we experience the organs in relation to the physical and life body we can truly experience them in geometrical relations along the length of the body. But the more we turn our focus away from the physical and life bodies, it can be said that the soul organs can be described much more faithfully as spheres within spheres. Not only that but these spheres are practically no other but the planetary spheres (Harmony of the Spheres). The experience within the depths of M@L is now in the most real sense Cosmic.
What is called the Moon sphere is the first layer that we go through. If we have to bring this to some spatial relations it can be said that this sphere of consciousness encompasses a sphere centered at the Earth and encompassing the orbit of our Moon. I'm mentioning this only in order to point attention that the physical Cosmos is only the mineral shadow of the spiritual spheres. There're many things to be said about the ways in which the spiritual becomes spatial but now it's not the time. Within our current fourth iteration/eon of evolution, this Moon sphere is the reverberation of the third iteration. We can only be conscious there through Imaginative consciousness. It's the soul or astral world. Here we come to know the part of our higher self that is called Manas or Spirit-Self.
Beyond that we reach the Sun sphere which is the proper Spiritual world, world of Inspirative consiousness, the archetypal beings raying out their creative ideas forming the matrix of planetary life. This sphere is the reverberation of the second eon of evolution. Here we come to know the part of the higher Self called Buddhi or Spirit-Life.
Then we reach the Saturn sphere, the higher Spiritual world, world of Intuitive consciousness, reverberation of the first eon. Here we behold the perspective of Atma or Spirit-Man - the archetypal Cosmic Man within whose sphere of consciousness the whole evolutionary drama unfolds. This is also called in Christian esoterism the Domain of the Father. The unity of the Sun sphere is called the domain of the Son. The unity of the Moon sphere is called the domain of the Holy Spirit.
There's no way one can pass through these spheres of being 'without noticing'. To imagine that we simply transcend our self by having enough of Earthly affairs and hoping to find something more to our liking after death can only be supported by very superficial understanding of what we are. Here again we're misled by spatial relations. Just because we imagine that we can carry our physical body across the Cosmos on a rocket, we imagine that we can take our atom-like consciousness anywhere we want. The facts of the higher worlds show that our consciousness is made of
the 'substance' of the spheres. There's nothing that we can take 'outside' unless we grow out beyond the inside. And this growing out is a very long process of the whole Solar evolution. Not only that but the forces that can support our desire for premature transcendence exist only as far as the Moon sphere. We can never step into the proper world of Inspiration (Sun sphere, the world of archetypal beings) as long as we feel the desire to follow our own path. This is not some capitulation at the powers of higher authorities but simple and lucid realization that the whole idea of personal path is an illusion. We can support that illusion only as long as we refuse to see the bigger picture. Sooner or later life will teach us how reality stands but it may take a lot of disappointments and suffering. Once we behold the work that the higher beings perform we understand that the most amazing personal path is the one that takes creative part, in complete freedom, in the great Cosmic work. This can be felt even in purely Earthly deeds. There's a very different quality of satisfaction when we do something only for our own interest, and when we feel how our work contributes to something much larger than us.
Once again - the above is not given as a proof but only to hint how different things stand when we begin to pursue the direction that leads 'behind the face' and into the deep Spheres of M@L (which at the same time are Cosmically big, no geometric diagram can capture the real facts). If one wants to place a bet and see how it goes after death - everyone is free. But let it at least be known that the direction in which these things can be found is always at hand. Nothing stands between it and us except we ourselves.