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Anna Brown's nonduality videos are fun to watch.

A couple of quotes from this one:

"There is no work to be done, because there is no you, there is only life appearing as...this."
"There is no path, there is no journey because it is a complete and total dream."
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How cute! Kind of like a young, pretty, feminine version of Tony Parsons. Will we still love her when she's his age? ;)

Here out of instinct or grace we seek
soulmates in these galleries of hieroglyph and glass,
where mutual longings and sufferings of love
are laid bare in transfigured exhibition of our hearts,
we who crave deep secrets and mysteries,
as elusive as the avatars of our dreams.
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yeah, "nobody here, nothing to do" neoadvaitists are fun to listen, and they do have their points, good for letting go our neediness and lacking-ness neuroses, but I still find their teachings a little shallow ...

Traditional Advaitists and Buddhists also view the world as a dream, but never said that "there is no work to be done". If a dream becomes a nightmare, the suffering in the dream is still experienced for real (even though there is "nobody who experiences it"), so turning the nightmare into a good dream for yourself and others is still work to be done.

And also nice to discuss here anything other than Anthroposophy :roll:
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And also nice to discuss here anything other than Anthroposophy
Yes! A nice antidote.
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Eugene,

Ok, here's a non-duality take more in keeping with establishing the link between ordinary and divine consciousness.

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ParadoxZone wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:39 pm Eugene,

Ok, here's a non-duality take more in keeping with establishing the link between ordinary and divine consciousness.
Christine is spot on
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Eugene I wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:31 pm yeah, "nobody here, nothing to do" neoadvaitists are fun to listen, and they do have their points, good for letting go our neediness and lacking-ness neuroses, but I still find their teachings a little shallow ...

Traditional Advaitists and Buddhists also view the world as a dream, but never said that "there is no work to be done". If a dream becomes a nightmare, the suffering in the dream is still experienced for real (even though there is "nobody who experiences it"), so turning the nightmare into a good dream for yourself and others is still work to be done.

And also nice to discuss here anything other than Anthroposophy :roll:

Finally we agree (except for that last part, but I will leave the dreaded 'A-word' out of it for now)! Except I would go much further than "a little shallow"... those sentiments are downright nihilistic to the core, taking the human spirit deep into the darkest depths of the sea. I think that response will suffice - a shallow response for a shallow video. Here is a much deeper one, since everyone else seems to be posting videos:


“It is your presumption that freedom is something which you already possess that ensures that you will remain in chains."
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Ashvin, I find the Western approach rooted in Christianity is somewhat unbalanced and too "needy" almost to the point of neurosis. On the other hand, neoadvaita is an opposite extreme that can be problematic and nihilistic. Christine presented a balanced approach, which is also shared by many other more mature nonduality teachers nowadays (Spira, Adyashanti and so on).
“Virtue is the golden mean between two vices, the one of excess and the other of deficiency” — Aristotle
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Eugene I wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:03 pm Ashvin, I find the Western approach rooted in Christianity is somewhat unbalanced and too "needy" almost to the point of neurosis. On the other hand, neoadvaita is an opposite extreme that can be problematic and nihilistic. Christine presented a balanced approach, which is also shared by many other more mature nonduality teachers nowadays (Spira, Adyashanti and so on).
“Virtue is the golden mean between two vices, the one of excess and the other of deficiency” — Aristotle

Who is Christine? Anna lost me in the first 15 seconds... "for no reason at all". It's amazing to me people can go around the world, looking at the ever-evolving, intricately delicate phenomenon which confronts them, and completely shut down their curiosity. There is no "balance" in such an approach, it is pure thoughtlessness disguised as "spiritual wisdom".

I just watched some more to 1:17... she seems tweaked out on something. Regardless, "I don't even want to say Oneness, because that makes it seem like there can be another... ZERO is more accurate, because there is nothing here". It's like her subconscious is speaking through her ego to warn us not to listen to her ego, by making her words so obviously nihilistic and devoid of meaning, but I guess some people still convince themselves it is meaningful and worth listening to.
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AshvinP wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:15 pm Who is Christine? Anna lost me in the first 15 seconds... "for no reason at all". It's amazing to me people can go around the world, looking at the ever-evolving, intricately delicate phenomenon which confronts them, and completely shut down their curiosity. There is no "balance" in such an approach, it is pure thoughtlessness disguised as "spiritual wisdom".

I just watched some more to 1:17... she seems tweaked out on something. Regardless, "I don't even want to say Oneness, because that makes it seem like there can be another... ZERO is more accurate, because there is nothing here". It's like her subconscious is speaking through her ego to warn us not to listen to her ego, by making her words so obviously nihilistic and devoid of meaning, but I guess some people still convince themselves it is meaningful and worth listening to.
Christine is here

ZERO is more accurate, because there is nothing here
She is just voicing the a-la-Buddhist insight into the emptiness of reality: there is no-"thing" here. Yes, there are no "things" in the dream, only images and ideas of them. But that does not mean that the dream is not real, the dream is indeed experienced for real by "That" (by Consciousness, by Thinking activity, by "You", whatever we want to call it) and this is what many neoadvaitist miss - the reality of experiencing the dream, even though it is true that such experience does not affect "You" (the absolute aspect) in any way.

As Buddhists say, there are two aspects of reality - absolute and relative that are inseparable from each other, and knowing both and living in both leads to a balanced approach, but neglecting one of those inevitably leads to all kinds of unbalanced and problematic scenarios.
"Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kanzas anymore" Dorothy
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