twin psychics

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findingblanks
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Re: twin psychics

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Soul,

When you first suggested that I may be choosing to not share information, I thought I had clearly indicated that I did not have it. And I assumed you thought I was at least trying to communicate that I am not ever hiding pretending not to have information. So your comment struck me as probably meaning you think I'm presenting a false image when I say I'm willing to give you as much details as possible. I now see that there are other ways to take your words. I'm glad you don't think I lied :)

I'll try to make sure our 'lying' observers aren't offended by your joke ;) Remember, Monkey was one of those folks until recently. I would have referred to him as M.K.., methinks.
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Re: twin psychics

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Hi again FB,

If you mean tonight, then yes I have time.

I can't promise much clarity from my end, some words that I thought were clear previously are a lot more fuzzy now. And vice versa.
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Re: twin psychics

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Ha, I totally get how that happens. No, I don't need a response tonight. I was just asking if this was a topic you were still open to going into with me. No rush. I'll approach that specified quote soon. Thanks.
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Re: twin psychics

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"As for Bernardo's comment and truth in general - this could really be the conversation stopper - even believing "seeing" IS the truth is problematic, regardless of when the thinking occurs (before as in already-formed bias, or afterwards as an interpretation). I'm ruling out "during" and I think that's justified. It's always important, but seems crucial to me when the "thing" been "seen" is labelled as nothingness or "nothing is happening"

If you could tell me how you are understanding the phrase 'nothing is happening', then I can maybe see how your comments relate to it. Thanks so much.
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Re: twin psychics

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FB,

nothing=no-thing. is happening = changing in any respect, so incorporating duration of some sort.

Following this, nothing is happening could mean there is no-thing changing at all. Which doesn't make sense , because "change" would be a "thing", duration would be a "thing", so the three word sentence would be nonsense.

I was interpreting it as "there is nothing" (as a concept/idea/meaning). I see now that this is a nonsense sentence too, similar to the above.

I still have the notion of nothingness as being absolute absence of anything. Which I can't imagine (visualise or find any grounding for) though it still seems to have meaning.

Clear as mud, in other words.
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Re: twin psychics

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Paradox, thanks for that elaboration.

When you say, "I still have the notion of nothingness as being absolute absence of anything," I'm curious to what degree you are saying that from a theoretical understanding of how things must be and to what degree is that pointing to an experience? I'm using the term 'degree' because I imagine it might be a blend....?

Thanks.
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Re: twin psychics

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FB,

Much more experience based, or accumulation of experience. (I've never consciously encountered nothingness or anything like that - oh, see next paragraph.) Interpretations of those experiences. Hardly any theory if any at all. At least I can't find any theoretical underpinning right now.

There was one very curious thing I used to do around sleep at weekends in my early 20's. I can describe briefly if you like - I can give a very brief account if it helps. (I don't want to p too many people off with the personal experiences.) It seems to be very related to "nothing going on" while being there with/in/of it.
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Re: twin psychics

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HI there,
The science behind clairvoyance is already known and explained in many cultures.
The fact that the life atom/soul has infinite potential and can stay with and also connect to more than one body at a time is simple...
The fact that everyone dreams and keeps visiting many places while his body remains sleeping is a common phenomenon.
I can explain more if someone in interested in understanding these things in detail.
Best regards,
Anand Damani.
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Re: twin psychics

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FB,

Need to go for now, then it occurred to me that I may have interpreted "theoretical" to mean a formal shared theoretical framework.

Or it can mean :

stuff seeming to happen+ more stuff happening etc

+ some logic + idea (before and after all the happening)

And the logic consists of idea/concept too. As does the thinking which brings them together.

So, in this framing, yes my answer has changed to "experience" + "theoretical understanding".

Which now means I need to explain experience to myself. And "stuff". OK, I needed to do that anyway.

So "nothing is happening" has turned into all this already. OK.

I'm trying not to tie down too precisely what words mean and also communicate. I'm finding that to be difficult, yet how could it not be.

Thanks, very much appreciated.
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Re: twin psychics

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FB,

I'll respond to myself again just this once in an effort to clarify where I'm at without any need for historical experiences to be mentioned.

I'm appreciating the gentle enough meshing/mashing of concept/idea/language though have the sense that this is going on rapidly enough in both foreground and background anyway. Subtly in some aspects, not at all subtly in others.

I also have this strong, persistent intuition that there's a team "game" going on and that the most important thing is to arrive at some type of accurate conclusion about my position on the field and what I need to do to be on the winning team, both for the team and myself.

The opposition doesn't seem to me to be playing by the rules and I've always had a big issue with that (while playing team sports).

I also have a very, very strong intuition that this game matters more than anything I've ever been involved in. That there is not time for ties, overtime or scheduled replays. That there's a shoot-out going on (penalties in soccer terms, sudden death maybe).

This is also my explanation about where by doubts are coming from regarding Sam Harris (others too). He seemed to have started out playing an individual sport or playing a highly individualised role on the other team. Maybe he got injured and his recovery is playing out publicly. Maybe he's switched to individual sports only. Maybe he really wants to be on the other team and is slowly trying, somehow, to achieve that. Or maybe he's doing that as an insider, gathering tactics for the other team. I'll leave it there as regards Harris.

To finish - is my team too full of too many wannabe
coach/managers? Are there spies amongst us?

I made my choice of team a long time ago, so I believe I'm ok on that front. Others can and will have their suspicions. That's fine and part of the game.
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