The irreducibility of consciousness

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Re: The irreducibility of consciousness

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SanteriSatama wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:45 pm
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:40 pm hailstan's
Who dat?
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Re: The irreducibility of consciousness

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SanteriSatama wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:45 pm
AshvinP wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:40 pm hailstan's
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Re: The irreducibility of consciousness

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DandelionSoul wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:32 amI would suggest that we know a few other things besides. We know that mind can appear to mind as matter, as in the case of dreams and some hallucinatory states. We know that at least some matter is an outer appearance of inner life. And we know that both matter and mind can only be conceived of in terms of mind. Idealism accommodates all of those facts very comfortably. Neutral monism just doesn't -- it posits as the reduction base we-know-not-what, and the we-know-not-what grounds both materiality and mentality we-know-not-how. If we're going to go that route, we might as well have let metaphysics bottom out at Kant.
This is a great response, thanks for reminding me of these things.
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