The World According to Barfield

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I was hoping that the Barfield debate would shift over here, but such are the vagaries of forum interaction, that some fail to notice my subtle hints ... not that it matters all that much.

On the topic of culture, for reasons I'm not quite sure of, I've always resonated with Terence McKenna's observation that 'culture is not our friend.' What did he actually mean by that? In any case, if evolving into the integral, aperspectival modality, whereby cultures fixated in the archaic, or magic, or mythic, or mental, are all subsumed into the integral, what becomes of those distinct cultures in terms of how they would then manifest within the phenomenal construct? Somehow it seems they would have to morph into some manifest expression that would be quite different from any previous expression, and that trying to resist this morphing is ultimately futile, and eventually all these various cultures will become post-cultural, having far more in common than they would differ.
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Soul_of_Shu wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:07 pm I was hoping that the Barfield debate would shift over here, but such are the vagaries of forum interaction, that some fail to notice my subtle hints ... not that it matters all that much.

On the topic of culture, for reasons I'm not quite sure of, I've always resonated with Terence McKenna's observation that 'culture is not our friend.' What did he actually mean by that? In any case, if evolving into the integral, aperspectival modality, whereby cultures fixated in the archaic, or magic, or mythic, or mental, are all subsumed into the integral, what becomes of those distinct cultures in terms of how they would then manifest within the phenomenal construct? Somehow it seems they would have to morph into some manifest expression that would be quite different from any previous expression, and that trying to resist this morphing is ultimately futile, and eventually all these various cultures will become post-cultural, having far more in common than they would differ.
That's a good point - the very concept of "cultural" now is tied up in the paradigm of excessive fragmentation and isolation. There is no iron necessity for it to be that way going forward. Although there are still quite a few cultural phases of spiritual evolution to go through.
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Michael Polanyi, Steiner and Kastrup?

I'm wondering if anyone knows whether Kastrup has engaged with Rudolf Steiner's 'Philosophy of Freedom' or Michael Polanyi's 'Personal Knowledge' and if so then where such discussions can be found. With thanks, Arthur
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Arthurus21 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:00 pm Michael Polanyi, Steiner and Kastrup?

I'm wondering if anyone knows whether Kastrup has engaged with Rudolf Steiner's 'Philosophy of Freedom' or Michael Polanyi's 'Personal Knowledge' and if so then where such discussions can be found. With thanks, Arthur
Hi Arthur ... I only know that as far as I recall Bk has never mentioned either Steiner or Polyani in any context. My best guess is that he has not read PoF.
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Arthurus21 wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:00 pm Michael Polanyi, Steiner and Kastrup?

I'm wondering if anyone knows whether Kastrup has engaged with Rudolf Steiner's 'Philosophy of Freedom' or Michael Polanyi's 'Personal Knowledge' and if so then where such discussions can be found. With thanks, Arthur

Arthurus,

As Dana said, BK has not publicly engaged with Steiner or PoF. I don't know about Polanyi. But if you yourself are looking to engage with Steiner and PoF - ask questions, discuss, criticize, whatever - you have definitely come to the right place :)
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