Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:07 pm
Soul_of_Shu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:18 pm
Cleric K wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:55 pm
If we're not caught up by the word itself - vaccine - and avoid the unnecessary speculations about covid, these things are serious matter. It's not difficult to imagine someone like Richard Dawkins being a great proponent of 'healing' the spiritual gene right out from the human genome.
It is an intriguing idea, for if corporeal phenomena are how Mind's Ideation manifests to us as none other than Mind focused in the corporeal construct, what does bio-engineered gene mutation and immune system, as opposed to natural, represent?
Another question ... Why wouldn't the manifest idea construction of vaccine-boosted immune systems be an example of evolved Ideation at work, rather than some misconceived creation of bastardized, deprived ideation?
It's all ideational activity, Dana. Think of it as
Inception - the idea is implanted deeply within the subconscious (by way of pre-natal genetic alteration) that the soul cannot possibly exist. Right now, it is still obvious to a fair number of people that a soul must exist, especially people who do not consciously hold to materialism. We look around at Nature, and at other people, and we see that the rich qualities of experience cannot possibly be captured by abstract mathematical equations and purely physical structures obeying fixed laws. That is changing right before our eyes, though. Right on this forum, in fact, we see a tendency to become increasingly skeptical of anything that relates to "spirit" or "soul", and to imprison ourselves within mechanistic chains of recursive thought which perceives the world as nebulous, fragmented, and deadened "particles". It is like my reference in the other thread about
The Abyss - we would rather blow the Spirit-Soul to smithereens then let it encroach on the 'territory' of our limited ego-consciousness. When it begins to encroach in that manner, we perceive it as a threatening monster and become afraid and hostile towards it. That is precisely because it all remains subconscious for us. Therefore, we ignore Rilke's wisdom:
“Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love.”
― Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
We ignore the above and instead our intellectual ego conjures up all sorts of ways to undermine our own confidence in what was patently obvious to our reflective thought and logical reasoning just a few years, months, weeks, days, or minutes ago. As Barfield remarked, "
the obvious is the most difficult thing of all to point out to anyone who has genuinely lost sight of it". That is how materialism has progressed and remained vibrant for the last few hundred years, despite all the reasons why we know it is logically incoherent. Eugenics, conducted in this manner by the limited and defensive ego, is nothing new. It really came to the fore in many countries across the West in the 1920s precisely when Steiner was writing about these things. There is no good reason to assume anything has changed in terms of unconscious or semi-conscious motivations, only in terms of the technology which allows them to be manifested in the world. The 'cure' is simple (not easy), though - just keep Thinking and shedding more Light on the subconscious, without unwarranted prejudice or cynicism towards all those who speak of the "soul".
It's one thing to put no effort into informing yourself about Anthroposophy, but can't you at least put some effort into your "critiques" of it? Even your "Schrodinger equation" fixation was more original and less mechanized than the above.