Anna Brown

[Soul_of_Shu]

And here it's back to the tit-for-tat taunting. Time for a break.

[Soul_of_Shu]

Unlocking this thread again, as I feel it was perhaps a bit unfair to Ben and others, since aside from some of the usual suspects duelling and feinting away, there are some good points to possibly follow up on. Incidentally, after watching the video from Christine Breese, I realized that she is one of the founders of Gaia Sagrada Ayahuasca & San Pedro Retreat Center, which I was about to arrange to attend, before Covid threw a wrench in that plan, so as to further address some ongoing healing. May yet carry on with that, since a visit to the Andes is still at the top of the bucket list, while still enamoured by this corporeal journey.

[Ben Iscatus]

Thanks for reopening the thread, Dana. Interesting coincidence for you!

Christine Breese makes some good points. Additionally, there is in nonduality teaching the difference between our perception of spiritually making effort and receiving grace. It's expressed well in this short video by Rupert Spira:
http://inspirationalvideosandquotes.com ... ss/?p=2765

[Lou Gold]

Unlocking this thread again, as I feel it was perhaps a bit unfair to Ben and others, since aside from some of the usual suspects duelling and feinting away, there are some good points to possibly follow up on. Incidentally, after watching the video from Christine Breese, I realized that she is one of the founders of Gaia Sagrada Ayahuasca & San Pedro Retreat Center, which I was about to arrange to attend, before Covid threw a wrench in that plan, so as to further address some ongoing healing. May yet carry on with that, since a visit to the Andes is still at the top of the bucket list, while still enamoured by this corporeal journey.

Quite synchronously, Dana, during the locked pause I stumbled upon this one, which has a lot of interesting twists and turns in it:

[Soul_of_Shu]

Quite synchronously, Dana, during the locked pause I stumbled upon this one, which has a lot of interesting twists and turns in it:

I've watched that one before, but may revisit it out of curiosity. Speaking of twists and turns, given what became of Brian Rose and his infamous run for the mayor of London, financed by some apparent scam, and what he's promoting lately on London Real, I'd have to say that his one encounter with the vine of the soul was not remedial, which of course, as you well know, requires far, far more commitment.

[Lou Gold]

Quite synchronously, Dana, during the locked pause I stumbled upon this one, which has a lot of interesting twists and turns in it:

I've watched that one before, but may revisit it out of curiosity. Speaking of twists and turns, given what became of Brian Rose and his infamous run for the mayor of London, financed by some apparent scam, and what he's promoting lately on London Real, I'd have to say that his one encounter with the vine of the soul was not remedial, which of course, as you well know, requires far, far more commitment.

I confess that I know nothing of Brian Rose but what you say seems classically cautionary. I read somewhere that there's a Tibetan saying about the spiritual path: "Better not to start but if started better to finish." I too am skeptical of one-shot workshops, indeed I'm skeptical of one-shot anything. In my own case, a life-changing dream and a 15-year later life-changing Daime vision turned out to be a lifelong work, which I'm still unpacking and, with each new insight, it feels as if I'm only beginning. Finishing seems to me as an ongoing process.

[Soul_of_Shu]

Might as well toss this one in here, as a kind of meeting of east and west, Advaita Vedanta and Esoteric Christianity, with a dash of Dante's Divine Comedy added for good measure ...

[Lou Gold]

Might as well toss this one in here, as a kind of meeting of east and west, Advaita Vedanta and Esoteric Christianity, with a dash of Dante's Divine Comedy added for good measure ...

WOW! Dana. As usual there's an incredible synchronous-ism between your recent youtube fare and my own intuitive meandering. The Spira/Vernon dialog is very rich and, to this viewer, a lovely example of how two very different points-of-view might do the dance we call conversation. Lovely, INDEED!

[Lou Gold]

Might as well toss this one in here, as a kind of meeting of east and west, Advaita Vedanta and Esoteric Christianity, with a dash of Dante's Divine Comedy added for good measure ...

WOW! Dana. As usual there's an incredible synchronous-ism between your recent youtube fare and my own intuitive meandering. The Spira/Vernon dialog is very rich and, to this viewer, a lovely example of how two very different points-of-view might do the dance we call conversation. Lovely, INDEED!

This podcast with one of my favorite novelists James David Duncan seems as an fitting follow-up to the Spira/Vernon dialog:



More about the the novels of David James Duncan here. For this reader at least Duncan's pen holds an amazing balance between humor, horror and hope that will surely delight some.

[Papanca]

Quite synchronously, Dana, during the locked pause I stumbled upon this one, which has a lot of interesting twists and turns in it:

I've watched that one before, but may revisit it out of curiosity. Speaking of twists and turns, given what became of Brian Rose and his infamous run for the mayor of London, financed by some apparent scam, and what he's promoting lately on London Real, I'd have to say that his one encounter with the vine of the soul was not remedial, which of course, as you well know, requires far, far more commitment.

I confess that I know nothing of Brian Rose but what you say seems classically cautionary. I read somewhere that there's a Tibetan saying about the spiritual path: "Better not to start but if started better to finish." I too am skeptical of one-shot workshops, indeed I'm skeptical of one-shot anything. In my own case, a life-changing dream and a 15-year later life-changing Daime vision turned out to be a lifelong work, which I'm still unpacking and, with each new insight, it feels as if I'm only beginning. Finishing seems to me as an ongoing process.

In my humble opinion there is no merit in that saying, it discourages one from even attempting a spiritual path, for why start if it's better not to start ? . Of course there are risks involved but there are risks in anything, including in never trying any spiritual practice.