idlecuriosity wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:16 pm
Cleric wrote:Yeah. This is key. The immediate conception of clairvoyance for most people is that a kind of extra layer of perceptions is overlaid on top of our ordinary senses (for example we begin to see shiny auras around people). This of course implicitly assumes that the relation of the thinking ego towards these higher perceptions is the same as to the sensory. In other words, higher seeing is imagined as something like sensory vision but of some finer, more ethereal kind.
this excerpt by mr Cleric K had grabbed my attention by explaining that very well
(1) So my questions are, are there credible reasons to believe scientists cannot rightly measure every effect of consciousness on how it expresses in matter and experience without unwittingly intruding upon falsifiable territory? (2) And second, am I right to believe that this mode of cognition manifests in your real life human agency as a better form of self control than being tethered to material and worldly troubles?
Hello curiosity,
I am not the person to provide much specific counsel in these areas, but here are a few thoughts. To be honest, I keep re-reading your question #1 and cannot figure out what it means. For #2, I would say yes, working towards higher cognition will definitely improve self-discpline, inner conviction, etc. The reason is rather simple - the pursuit of higher cognition, i.e. making the subconscious conscious via heartfelt Thinking, is the attuning of one's body, soul, and spirit (mind) with the metamorphic structure of Reality itself. Just as a person who wants to remain physically healthy must eat healthy, do some cardio and weights, etc., which allows their entire physical organism to function more harmoniously, the same holds true for the soul-spirit organism. We don't really need to look for any deeper why's than that, but, as mentioned on another thread, the real value is in discovering this
for oneself through patience, good will, effort, experience, and precisely reasoned logic. Simply dreaming about the idea of "higher cognition" in abstract will really lead nowhere. If one feels they are not the "precisely logical reasoning" sort, then I would say that capacity is developed much more easily than people think when there is a trust in one's own Spirit. Devotional prayer is a key way to build up that trust. It is not prayer to get things from God, but to "
seek first [God's] Kingdom and his righteousness". I refer you to Cleric's post in this regard:
viewtopic.php?p=10339#p10339
Cleric wrote:So in the Fall man has to worry about food and clothing. He is pressed down by the environmental forces and he has to fight for his survival. Now we're getting back to the Kingdom. The Sun Spirit, the "I", has made its way into the dense decohered Earthly spectrum. Now it begins its work of bringing back the resonant harmonic relations of the Cosmic Organism. This is what everyone of us does individually through Thinking in which the "I" manifests. So far humans are busy hijacking this Thinking for the satisfaction of egoistic desires which perpetuates the out-of-phase relationships, keeps the stock market graph chaotic and makes everyone worry for the 'daily bread'.
The Gospel tells us that we can never fix things by focusing on the bread. As long as the decohering forces rule, the bread will always be uncertain. Instead, the Gospel invites us to first seek the Kingdom and its righteousness. What does this mean? It starts from the individual. Each person is an image of the Cosmic organism. As Thinking is recognized more and more as manifestation of the Cosmic Spirit within the sensory spectrum, it becomes more and more empowered, it becomes creative. Today it is entirely within reach of every human being to take their destiny in their own hands. By enlightening our Thinking, filling our hearts with Love and conducting through our Will only noble and righteous deeds, we begin to restore the coherence within our own being. This leads to actual healing. Of course it's of great significance also what we eat, drink, breathe. We can't expect to elevate ourselves spiritually while at the same time we destroy our physical vessel.
Once these powerful impulses move beyond the individual we already have the means for transformation of family and social life. All of this can only happen by completely free and fully conscious individual initiative. Ultimately, as the invisible structure of the Cosmic organism begins to be harmonized, the effects of the Fall begin to be reversed. In the far future this will extend to the other realms of Nature, for example man will be able to communicate with the animal kingdom. If we may use the expression, to live in such a harmonic spectral structure would be as having perpetual luck. Food will be there when needed, the right beings will cooperate when needed and so on, just as in a healthy organism a cell receives its nutrition on time, it gets its immune defense on time and so on. Of course all of this will happen not instinctively but fully consciously it will be up to us to create these resonant and harmonic relations within the spectrum of existence. Clearly this is still very far ahead of time. And the funny thing is that humans still don't even know that such a work must be undertaken.
Also, the logical reasoning approach is not the only path by which one can approach these things to begin with - if one is more creatively inclined, for ex., there are alternative ways to approach the same Reality of higher imaginations, inspirations, and intuitions. But all such paths will require our own personal dedicated effort. So your curiosity will need to become less idle