Consciousness, Civilization and Citizenship

[AshvinP]

I guess I don't need to make anyone spell it out... but was kind of hoping my initial assumptions were wrong. This is exactly what I was referring to on the Jorjani thread when I said,

I am convinced that such policies are the inevitable conclusion of 'post-modern' thinking which does not find any telos in the process which brought us to where we are

[Lou Gold]

I know what mice are... what or who are they are they representing in this analogy?

The analogy belongs to Santeri. I interpreted it as a challenge to my notion that 'kind regard' might solve conflicts. Basically, he likes to stress that there are no rules (including this one), with which I gotta agree but, nevertheless, our back-and-forth is full of fun banter.

[SanteriSatama]

Mice.

[AshvinP]

I know what mice are... what or who are they are they representing in this analogy?

The analogy belongs to Santeri. I interpreted it as a challenge to my notion that 'kind regard' might solve conflicts. Basically, he likes to stress that there are no rules (including this one), with which I gotta agree but, nevertheless, our back-and-forth is full of fun banter.

There are no rules against using lethal force to eradicate people whose actions you perceive to be a threat to the 'ecosystem'? That's news to me and doesn't sound like being a responsible Citizen in any sense of that word.

And you do realize how the thought/image of rodents has been widely used to characterize populations who are the targets of genocidal policies, right?

[David_Sundaram]

I know what mice are... what or who are they are they representing in this analogy?

Yah, Sanman. I too am awaiting your clarification.

[Soul_of_Shu]

I know what mice are... what or who are they are they representing in this analogy?

Am I missing something here? I understood that Santeri and Lou were literally referring to mice and mouse traps, and the ethical consideration of how to keep them from setting up house in an actual house ~ short of subjecting them to a painful death trap ~ where they are prone to possibly damaging the premises, including chewing up the electrical wire insulation for nesting material, creating fire hazards. My suggestion ... get a cat.

[AshvinP]

I know what mice are... what or who are they are they representing in this analogy?

Am I missing something here? I understood that Santeri and Lou were literally referring to mice and mouse traps, and the ethical consideration of how to keep them from setting up house in an actual house, where they are prone to possibly damaging the premises ~ including chewing up the electrical wire insulation for nesting material, creating fire hazards. My suggestion ... get a cat.

LOL. Yes, you are missing something... but for the sake of Civility, I will drop this line of questioning. Let's also drop this talk of "mice" and "mouse-traps".

[Lou Gold]

Mice.

Scurrying among crumbs falling, rising, swirling from much bigger stuff going on.

[Soul_of_Shu]

OK, still not seeing the figurative context. But if indeed there is some insidious intent, this figurative 'cat' will be on the prowl.

[Lou Gold]

OK, still not seeing the figurative context. But if indeed there is some insidious intent, this figurative 'cat' will be on the prowl.

You were correct about the literal meaning. Now, the tone figuratively shifts toward we are the mice and, as usual, the context is a great mysteriousness.