Jim Cross wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:57 pmSeems racist to me.Martin_ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:02 pmThen how would you resolve the following (translated) quote from Steiner?
(Staudenmaier: Race and Redemption: Racial and Ethnic Evolution in Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposophy, p17 (Eugene's 2nd link))One can only understand history and all of social life, including today’s
social life, if one pays attention to people’s racial characteristics. And one
can only understand all that is spiritual in the correct sense if one first
examines how this spiritual element operates within people precisely
through the color of their skin.
I could probably overlook it as a product of European thinking of the time except the Steinerists want us to think that the old man was infallible.
It is one thing to read Steiner, maybe gain some insights and ideas, but another thing to slavishly quote everything he writes as prophetic and correct. Then it becomes unhealthy and cultish. This is probably why BK wants to keep his distance from it.
No doubt there are some here who believe themselves to be reincarnations of teachers specifically brought to humanity at this time to educate us. A free thinking forum may not be the best place for someone who is already sure about everything.
Cleric has already explained these things multiple times in long detailed posts on this forum, including on this thread. I would quote them here but I know you guys won't read them for comprehension, so there is no point. It's hard enough to get you (Jim) to understand basic metphysical idealist claims, so there is really no point in trying with you. Your inability to understand what Steiner is speaking of here is, unsurprisingly, related to your refusal to read him or to try and understand anything about his spiritual evolutionary framework. And what he says is nothing shocking... modern secular scientists have tied ethnicity to cognitive intelligence in a million different verifiable ways. Yes, these are uncomfortable facts for modern PC culture, but they exist and no person who ignores them altogether is actually doing science. And it's not about physicalist biology, because we recognize the Reality of soul and spirit, which are fluid, evolving, and therefore integrating aspects of the human organism. Anyone who fails to consider these aspects is simply adopting physicalism, plain and simple. The difference is the secular scientists have no idea why these facts exist or if they will ever be overcome through the cognitive integration of differences, while Steiner provides logically reasoned answers to those questions. Ironically, people's refusal to consider those answers, and instead project abstract theoretical "racism" everywhere they look, reinforcing the worst prejudice of "collective guilt", is what will ensure actual, real-life, concrete racism and prejudice of all sort, in the exact same bloody manner as happened throughout the last century.