Well we keep circling around the sticking point here. I don't believe that you or Cleric are anything but well-intentioned. I understand that the Revelation, or Illumination, or Awakening, whatever the preferred descriptor, unfolds in stages, just as with metamorphosis in nature, and is not a one-and-done event. This is hardly breaking news. Cleric has stated that indeed the initial stage can be contingent upon some crucial, integral stage-specific trigger, that can seemingly come by Grace, out-of-the-blue, so to speak, without any prior interest or practice. I suggest that there then follows a period of intense work/activity specific to the stage that one is urgently, irresistibly compelled to carry out, e.g. a period of intense newfound creativity—in this case in the form of poetic expression—linked to a sudden awareness of, and relationship with, a 'higher' realm, and perhaps some limited, tentative communing with entities associated with that realm. Now, to re-state my intuition, when I say that no doubt I could go further, beyond that limit, that does not automatically mean that I can go much further, absent the next integral stage-specific trigger, which then initiates the work/activity specific to the next stage, at which point, just as in the prior stage, one is urgently, irresistibly compelled to carry it out—such as the kind of activity that Cleric is urgently carrying out, and his many attempts to show what that activity is precisely. So one can't rule out that while I feel no such urgency now, with the next stage-specific trigger, that compelling urgency will be felt, and it won't be a question of 'I don't want or need to', or 'one's just too shiftless to be bothered', rather it will be like a 'there's no way I can not do this' situation, even maybe do-or-die. And absent that stage-specific trigger, no amount of imploring one to 'stop being shiftless, and just do the work', or diligent attempts to read about, meditate upon, or carry out the exercises will be the difference that makes the difference, in lieu of the stage-specific trigger. And after that, then will come the next stage-specific trigger, and the next work/activity associated with that next stage, and so on.AshvinP wrote: ↑Wed Jun 15, 2022 2:02 pm I'd like to think I am growing and evolving from my Maya dream character identification as well, in ways completely unsuspected even a few months ago.
Inner desires and intentions determine what we can perceive and conceive (if we understand idealism seriously), and since I now know you have no desire or intention to understand what we write about devoleping higher spiritual capacities, there is no point continuing in writing to reach that understanding with you. If you want to believe Cleric and I are just saying you don't yet understand because we are vain or fickle people, and it has nothing to do with your just recently admitted desire not "to go much further", even though you have "no doubt you could go much further", that's fine.
Now of course tell me how wrong this intuition is, that I'm just making lazy excuses, because I just don't want or intend to go further. I also didn't intend or want the initial stage-specific trigger of the Revelation, and yet it came. Why then should the next phase require me to want or intend it? Why would I not then be urgently, irresistibly compelled to do the work specific to it?
So perhaps we should make a date to meet down the road. Who knows what transformations there will be, what stage-specific 'work' one will be doing? Albeit, the change here, at 72, may be that I won't be appearing in corporeal form, and the 'work' may be happening in some alternate incarnation. Or maybe I'll be on the angel side of the encounter