Federica wrote:Ashvin,
I’m glad you found the description useful, but I wonder why you would want to remind yourself of an entangled perspective that you have now been able to leave behind. Writing this, I thought it could be useful to those who are with me, still on the other side of the inversion horizon.
Federica,
We should remember that the newer evolutionary progression embeds all olders forms, modes, capacities, etc. within itself. It's not that we are reverting back to the old perspective, but we can more deeply understand the body-soul-spirit constellations from which the old perspectives arose. I think this is pretty evident in Cleric's posts here, for ex. - they are often tailored precisely to perspectives from which the questions/comments he is responding to arose. He can somewhat imaginatively inhabit those perspectives and then crystallize metaphors/illustrations which build a conceptual gradient between those perspectives and his own current one. Whereas personally I feel to be in more of a 'no man's land' in this regard, not quite able to deeply penetrate my old self with living understanding, although I think that understanding is also progressing, slowly but surely. Ultimately this must be the case if evolution will only proceed through the new becoming responsible for redeeming the old.
Federica wrote: ↑Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:25 pmYes, I didn't know of this alternative English spelling, but it looks like they both refer to the exact same feeling.
Right... It's so easy to think that being reverent to nature, letting our (entangled) nature be, abiding by it because it must know better than us, etc. is the way to avoid hybris. Another variation - not mine this one, but common: 'let's not fight our destiny'. It's difficult to draw the line between responsibility and hybris. Between daring to do our due part and relaxing in a 'Gods must know better' comfy repose. I am still not 100% clear on that. Or, I am clear, but it requires a conscious effort every time, to reset the thoughts, to dig a fresh track for them to flow in the correct direction. If I am not careful I will land in a default "nature is wonderful, nature knows better" type of excuse. It looks humble, in reality it's self-indulging. We like to believe that our daily struggles somehow entitle us to some relief from individual responsibility. We hear a lot: 'It's ok to fail', and it's true of course, that it's ok to fail, but only if failure comes from free action, rather than from 'reverent' avoidance. I see that true reverence and devotion spring out of acted responsibility, not out of fearful submission to inner and outer events, disguised as respectful awareness.
But it is difficult… I couldn't get the sense of your comment at first reading, for instance. I had to kind of push myself out of planar text analysis first… it's that bad
Trust me, these things require a conscious effort every time for me as well. The lower conditioning is very strong and we are simply fooling ourselves if we ever feel that we have escaped it, which is always a tempting feeling. Throughout life I have always had a certain problem with laying hold of my inner strength of will, and that is something I am really working on right now. Although it may not seem this way online, I am actually very agreeable, too agreeable, in person! Of course we need to also guard against inflating our ego too far in the other direction, to the point of an almost bubble solipsistic attitude, but this safeguard comes naturally through spiritual training of the sort expressed in HTKHW or TSH (Klocek).
One thing I like to remind myself is just how independent the rest of Culture, Nature and the Cosmos is on my current willpower (which is why I perceive them as 'external' to my own being). I could assert myself strenuously with inner spiritual activity for the rest of my life and still remain within the superficial layers of my own bodily organism and immediate environment, and that is likely the case. The Gods have nothing to fear from our strengthened will and everything to gain from what incremenetal improvements we can make with expanding our creative responsibility for the World. Ultimately the destiny of man is to become the Gods and it's easy to see just how far we have to go towards that goal in a culture where some have forgotten the Gods even exist and others treat them as floating abstractions, their activity forever removed from the sphere of our inner will-thinking. The more we pay active attention to the Gods within the collective subconscious, the more they pay attention to us.
"For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love, and self-discipline." -2 Timothy 1:7