Stranger wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:30 pmMy approach is pragmatic: we need to do the work now as much as we can to make it malleable as much as it can be malleable. If/when we find a "hard limit" to the malleability, we will then figure out how to get around this problem when we get to that limit. We do not know at this point if this limit exists or not. And at this point we do not need to worry about it because most of us are quite far from reaching this limit and there is still much work that can and should be done while we are in this human life. We can not predict the future and it is not our business to do that, but our business is to do the job we should do each day one at a time while clearly knowing the direction we are going.AshvinP wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:16 pm How do you reconcile the quest for spiritual freedom with this disposition of, "something will probably happen"? Leaving all philosophical and spiritual analysis aside, I wonder what you make of the following quote. Isn't it a self-fulfilling prophecy if everyone were to assume something might happen to us down the road to make our form malleable, instead of engaging the hard inner work to help make it malleable ourselves? (note: this is done in cooperation with the Divine hierarchies, so salvation is a rhythmic polarity of faith/love and works).
My motivation is only this one regardless where and in which form my individuated consciousness activity of the Spirit exists. If it happens to be in human form (as it is now) then be it in human form: "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." (Matt 6. 33)Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. (Matthew 6:34)
Then doesn't it make sense not to assume any limit, inwardly? Meaning, we might outwardly say, 'I don't know if there is a limit and will find out once I reach it', but we are still placing our bets that there is probably a limit and structure our beliefs/practices accordingly. That is reflected in sentiments such as, 'there only so much time and resources to transform our organism in this lifetime', or the belief that we are able to freely choose to abandon the sheaths after death and thereby escape the reincarnation cycle. It is also reflected in the ways you choose to interpret scriptural passages. So the hard limit is alive and kicking, even though you have reasoned out that the pragmatic approach makes the most sense. Why is that?
Remember, we are speaking inner limits of soul-spirit transformation which eventually impress into the bodily organism, so we can't analogize to any phenomenon which appears as purely physical in our familiar experience. For ex. we can't say, 'well I have never tried jumping off a tall building, but I think it's a safe bet that there is a limit which prevents me from flying and I should act accordingly'. Making such a comparison would be reducing the trans-incarnational soul-spirit lawfulness with that of the physical plane, trying to fit the former into concepts derived from the latter.