Stranger wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:35 pm
AshvinP wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:37 pm
In your previous post, you mentioned the living detail of an apple on a table. You were responding to Cleric about the living details of the imaginative perceptual reality which would manifest on the Jupiter reincarnation of Earth. Everyone here knows that the perceptual spectrum is not some free-floating reality independent of Ideas - in fact the entire purpose of entering the living details is to flesh out the inutition of how they are intimately related within our evolving individual-collective experience. So what is the purpose of your post and the comparison between the two?
My comment was just about the Imaginative nature of any manifested reality and it was not particularly a comment on the Jupiter reincarnation on Earth.
PS - attaining the Middle Way or balance is not by reinforcing the perceived duality between details/structures of reality and 'nature of reality', but by progressively realizing how they are One and the same. The process of unveiling the former should become united with the process of understanding the latter. If we imagine them as two separate processes, two separate avenues of investigation, then we are reinforcing the duality and oscillating between the polar extremes instead of harmonizing them via the Middle Way.
That is exactly right, we need to follow a harmonized approach as part of the same process.
OK, so isn't the critical part of this harmonized approach the investigation of
how the Intuitive, Inspired, and Imaginative nature of reality
becomes objectively manifested reality? I'm not speaking of an abstract model of various beings creating genetic structures which create dualistic perception and what not, but something much more akin to Cleric's various posts on the rhythmic cycles of manifestation which we can locate throughout our individual and collective experience of becoming. Shouldn't we move on from the broad realizations about the 'imaginative nature of any manifested reality' to this living phenomenology of the imaginative process by which
specified realities, both 'past' and 'future', are manifested within our present stream of becoming?
For ex., if we have an ideal to buy a house, our present thinking states of being begin to unfold in a certain direction, along a certain curvature, towards that ideal. They start to revolve around how to save money and build credit, good neighborhoods for homes, types of architecture and furniture for homes, interior design, etc. One can rightly say we have constrained our thinking into certain curvatures from the unbounded sea of potential by recognizing this ideal, but it would be an error to suggest that is making us less free. We are steered along curvatures towards ideals regardless of whether we are aware of them or not, whether we are consciously choosing them or not. It is precisely by becoming active in that steering towards ideals that we find greater and greater degrees of freedom in our spiritual activity. By finding these greater DoF, we can manifest the Oneness in more pliable forms of the world for the benefit of not only ourselves as perceived 'soul-atoms', but the Human and Cosmic whole.
So do you agree that these investigative efforts are critical to the harmonized approach and, if so, are you interested in making them? Let's also be clear that much of these living details we are speaking of now are not familiar to you. It is simply inconceivable that you already knew them and they are completely familiar, akin to some other details of the normal sensory-conceptual spectrum. That needs to be established if any progress is to be made. Most of the living details are also unfamiliar to me as well, and that's only natural, but we can't make any progress if we assume they are already known or akin to that which we already know. If we don't feel like we are being prompted towards profound insights and revelations when approaching these details, then something is off. Most likely we are abstracting and reducing them into familiar conceptual templates.