Federica wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:49 pm
The outfit is a present from Ashvin, I'm trying it on
AshvinP wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:06 am
Federica wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:00 pm
That's easy. While I am misaligned, I am beyond any doubt not the exclusive product of my environment. I find my sense of individuality on the one hand, in my destiny, in my name. Even if I am not conscious of how these were shaped and what their trajectory is, I know they are uniquely mine - and on the other hand, in my will. Even if it operates from the perspective of a limited aperture, and conditioned by unseen curvatures,
there is without any doubt a direction of intents that fights to find realization, there is a quest that encounters both friction and recognition. I don't need to be an Initiate for that. Freedom too is a gradient.
Can you just remind me what we are concretely discussing at this point?
Your initial comments sounded as if you realized the sacrificial steps to resist the normal sensory-soul flow (including during non-meditative activity) were necessary to gain intuitive clarity about the intents that fight for realization of ideals, as opposed to
the 'will' that only dreams it is fighting for that realization while it is passively flowing along with ingrained habits and preferences.
Beinsa Douno has said something very important: "Don't pass judgment on the
unfinished paintings."
The unfinished paintings are each one of us.
I don't think anyone has passed judgments here. I believe there's a simple misunderstanding.
What we all need to cultivate is a certain fluidity and anticipation for the pendulum swings. Many conversations pass through thesis-antithesis-synthesis iterations. For example, the talk about music comprehension was a thesis. You saw something lacking and provided an antithesis, noticing that you see something mortifying. Then the pendulum swung back and Ashvin said that, in such antithesis, it is possible that the needed sacrifices may not be understood. But you took that personally as if he was passing judgment that you're dropping back to the vanity fair of the sensory world. From my reading, this was not the case. And I'm not saying this to defend somebody. If anything, Ashvin is a lawyer so he barely needs someone to defend him
It's just that the pendulum should have continued swinging. The mortification theme would have been worked out.
I remember back in the day, I was reading OMA and it made an impression on me how he often says something and then immediately counterbalances from the other side as if he anticipates how the reader will otherwise swing too far. Our soul body really oscillates in such swings and part of our quest for true inner knowledge is to feel and anticipate these swings.
If the topic was fluidly continued it would have become clear that something is indeed sacrificed but the sensory element of music doesn't disappear. Instead, it becomes even more meaningful, as another language through which the soul expresses.
I believe that we can all fully relate to "Don't pass judgment on the
unfinished paintings" and I further believe that we're all more or less fulfilling this rule. So our conversations can be completely above our personal unfinished paintings. The pendulum can gently swing back and forth and in this way it sweeps the soul volumes. In this sense, the swings are even beneficial. If we would all agree on a point and rest in it, nothing would push us off balance such that new soul realms can be swept. Yes, sweeping the ideal volume that we probe with thinking, feels a little different from sweeping the soul volume, which can still feel a little emotional. But in the end, it is all part of the same space of spiritual possibilities that we're gradually unveiling.