Yes, I noticed that there is a thinking habit in our time, that tend people towards thinking that these impulses are just subjective, and have nothing to do with the real world. These prejudices must become conscious and must be understood. These is the first step for me and I still have to wrestle with them.AshvinP wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:27 pmGüney27 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:48 pm Thank you ashvin.
I can really resonate with your counting Metapher from Clerics last essay series. One thing I notice is how certain impulses pop up in consciousness, like for example the impulse of scrolling trough social media mindlessly, while reading long phenomenological essays like here on the forum. Trough out our whole daily consciousness these impulses pop up. One thing I noticed is that they don’t appear in full articulated sentences, but more in single words or sometimes pictures, that drag us in another state of the experiential flow. But even if they appear without being completely articulated, they have a clear meaning.
Most of the time these impulses are of a selfish nature, pleasure seeking so to say. It’s rare that these impulses are of a loving, humble or sacrificial nature. It’s true that at this point I can’t say something about the deeper origins of these impulses. They just appear like the 5 sound, in the example above. There is some dynamics that can be found tough. I understand why in spiritual streams they called it animal nature. If RS (or anyone else) says that these impulses are the intents of elementals, his experience must differ from my observations at this time. So how can we approach the depth of these impulses?
That's great, Guney! You are clearly becoming more inwardly sensitive through concentrated thinking. Notice how, when you read long phenomenological essays, you intend a flow that conflicts with the wider World flow, i.e. all the other things that you could be attending to that would bring you sensual pleasure, satisfy your usual preferences, align with your normal habits, etc. The wider World flow then drags against your concentrated study and, assuming you don't let it immediately carry you away each time, that resistance feeds back as living thoughts that heighten your sensitivity to the inner constraints of the World flow (beginning with your proximate soul constraints).
We could also remember the clay pot metaphor. As long as our thinking is passive, we are immersed in the imaginative panorama (clay substance) and discern the lowest common denominator of meaning conveyed by the World flow. We rely on the concepts educated into our sensory organism through basic natural and cultural development. We will our bodily movements and this feeds back on us as the sensory panorama which, for the most part, feels like a morphing pot that has nothing to do with our hand movements (and we hardly even question the relationship). Our thoughts simply imitate the sensory flow as a commentary on it. When we begin actively intending our thinking in a certain direction, however, the mental pictures that feedback start to be reflected in the imaginative panorama, i.e. we begin to spiritually 'see' (as a negative image) inner aspects of the World flow.
This most clearly happens in philosophy, theology, and science and what feeds back on the resistance of active thinking are 'laws', 'principles', 'doctrines', etc. that cohere the sensory appearances across time. The natural scientists resist the usual curvature of flowing along with sensory impressions and associated 'subjective' feelings and instead concentrate their thinking to propose hypotheses, set up experiments, analyze the results, and so on. In that sense, since the very dawn of thinking, gaining insights into the World flow has always been an exercise in meditative resistance. The impulse of modern initiation is to simply extend and intensify that exercise within the domain of the spiritual activity that is presupposed in all other domains of inquiry.
GA 79 wrote:The essential point in the foundations of Anthroposophy is that one starts from completely normal human experiences, that one has a good knowledge of modern scientific truths, of modern ethical life, and develops these very things more intensively, so that one can penetrate into the higher worlds through an intensification of the cognitive forces which already exist less intensely in ordinary life and in science. One must of course have an understanding for these ordinary human experiences. One must pay attention to thoroughly ordinary normal experiences, which, however, we are not very much interested in observing carefully. Things must, so to speak, become enigmas and problems. Although they form part of ordinary life, one easily fails to see their enigmatic character.
In a sense, you have already answered your own question. True knowledge of the deeper inner constraints always comes via catharsis, purifying the soul life of its selfish impulses (like the pride of feeling that ordinary experiences are already well understood). This only sounds like asceticism to those who cannot suspect a purification via concentrated intuitive thinking. It is a highly creative endeavor. We know exactly what the goal is and have a clear sense of how we will reach it, i.e. by intensifying the very same meaning we experience when we willfully resist the usual curvatures to study spiritual science and this feeds back on us as ordinary insightful thoughts (but now understood symbolically since we are somewhat conscious of the intuitive condensation process). The rest is practically creative techniques based on our individual, freely evaluated circumstances.
You have become more inwardly sensitive to a common habitual curvature that I also share with you (and I am sure many others do as well). When the Facebook notification pops up while I am reading an essay or lecture, I am amazed at how much attractive pull it exerts on my attention. The only way to deepen our sensitivity and unveil the inner nature of such constraints is renunciation. If we continue to let that selfish impulse drag our attention away while we are reading, when we still have visual support in the text, it will certainly do so during meditation, when we lack that support. We should use these opportunities to gradually make mini-exercises, like committing to not checking social media during certain times of day, or not stopping the essay for at least 15 or 30 min. of unbroken reading.
The reality is that, through our mental concentration, we will only grow more and more sensitive to these inner flaws and we may feel quite helpless to transform them for quite some time. But at the same time, we can take heart that our Spirit is growing into the depths of the World process. The very fact that these curvatures we have become conscious of are beyond our mental control helps us concretely feel how they belong to the unified World process that drives existence, rather than only being 'subjective' factors that exist 'in our mind'. The inner constraints are no longer a mere psychological theory but a living fact of our experience. And since we have become sensitive to them within ourselves, we will also more easily notice how they constrain the flow at more expansive spacetime scales. This should Inspire us to continue our concentration and renunciation efforts with ever-replenishing strength.
But still, I must admit that these experiences don’t let me intuit, that these impulses are the activity of other conscious beings. That’s still an abstract claim in a certain way for me, maybe you became conscious of it. If it is so I would love to hear about the experiences.
Did Steiner uses the term Astral-body, because the term body implies a certain structure, and is grasped by people easily?