Metaphysics - Idealism without woo-woo

[AshvinP]

Take for example computer AI as an analogy. There is an algorithmic activity and there is also a memory, and there can even be meta-cognition in AI (nowadays meta-cognitive AIs are being developed by some researchers). Yet all of it does not result in the existence of any "subject" of activity or continuity in AI. There is no "self" or "I" to AI.

What are these "meta-cognitive" AIs you reference? Can you provide a link or additional explanation.

[Lou Gold]

Please forgive my view from the edge and ignorance of the technicalities but I'm genuinely curious about why one might want "Idealism without woo-woo"? Is it like wanting Science without Religion or wanting Everything without Something? Please help me understand.

[Mandibil]

As I say in my presentation --- it can very quickly get very complicated

[Mandibil]

Please forgive my view from the edge and ignorance of the technicalities but I'm genuinely curious about why one might want "Idealism without woo-woo"? Is it like wanting Science without Religion or wanting Everything without Something? Please help me understand.

With "woo-woo" I basically refer to any attempt at "explaining" what "the things in themselves" are. Be that some kind of transcendental access, a "mind at large" and everything else. My first axiom of metaphysics, experience is all I can base anything on, leaves no room for access to what I cannot experience

[Lou Gold]

Please forgive my view from the edge and ignorance of the technicalities but I'm genuinely curious about why one might want "Idealism without woo-woo"? Is it like wanting Science without Religion or wanting Everything without Something? Please help me understand.

With "woo-woo" I basically refer to any attempt at "explaining" what "the things in themselves" are. Be that some kind of transcendental access, a "mind at large" and everything else. My first axiom of metaphysics, experience is all I can base anything on, leaves no room for access to what I cannot experience

Do you have a second axiom that says, "I can experience everything" ?

[Soul_of_Shu]

There are experiential modalities that give access to a state of That which one is in essence, if ready to deal with experiencing the utter disappearance of the subject><object-based maya-you ... at least until the ontological imperative inevitably kicks back in.

[Lou Gold]

There are experiential modalities that give access to a state of That which one is in essence, if ready to deal with experiencing the utter disappearance of the subject><object-based maya-you ... at least until the ontological imperative inevitably kicks back in.

Seems that the OP kicks back in with the survival habit that attempts to communicate verbally or to find meaning in or to explain the experience.

[Lou Gold]

Maybe, "I can experience everything" is the only axiom that is needed.

[Mandibil]

Please forgive my view from the edge and ignorance of the technicalities but I'm genuinely curious about why one might want "Idealism without woo-woo"? Is it like wanting Science without Religion or wanting Everything without Something? Please help me understand.

With "woo-woo" I basically refer to any attempt at "explaining" what "the things in themselves" are. Be that some kind of transcendental access, a "mind at large" and everything else. My first axiom of metaphysics, experience is all I can base anything on, leaves no room for access to what I cannot experience

Do you have a second axiom that says, "I can experience everything" ?

In metaphysics I would not refer to "things" ... check out the last few minutes of the video in the OP. There are the axioms.

[Mandibil]

Maybe, "I can experience everything" is the only axiom that is needed.

You need more to get to epistemology