Philosophical Speculations

Ben Iscatus wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:02 pm

Once we think about this fact and really come to understand it, however, that understanding should be a great source of encouragement and inspiration. It reveals to us the true inner strength of our thinking organism. It provides us with clear and present evidence that our own careful reasoning can help us start remembering what we have long-forgotten. We have involuted our living ideas into abstract thoughts, and it is through re-membering that process that we actively participate in the evolution of our thoughts back to those living ideas.

As I was reading these noble thoughts, I was listening to an interview with John Cleese on the radio. He was asked if he had to really work at his comedy ideas, and he replied that all the best lines in comedy come from the unconscious. That's Anti-Synchronicity!

I think this is still 'synchronous', only Cleese may hold the common assumption that what is currently "unconscious" is forever beyond our capacity to make conscious. That assumption defies all thinking experience, which could even be defined as, "shedding light on experiences that were previously subconscious". There would be no use for depth psychologists if this were not true. Our memory would never have the capacity to improve with inner work if this were not true. Many other things we take for granted in the world would evaporate if this were not true. It is that unwarranted assumption which turns a great insight into an unneccesary and self-defeating obstacle. The best jokes land because they are inspired from concrete experiential truths, which the comedian uses to create metaphors via thinking and employing analogies which marry 'matter' and mind, even if mostly subconsciously. But his recognition that there is actually a subconscious working within him to inspire creativity is already illustrating that one can even transform lack of knowledge into an impulse for knowledge via careful reasoning.

"Space, time, society, labor, climate, food, locomotion, the animals, the mechanical forces, give us sincerest lessons, day by day, whose meaning is unlimited. They educate both the Understanding and the Reason. Every property of matter is a school for the understanding,— its solidity or resistance, its inertia, its extension, its figure, its divisibility. The understanding adds, divides, combines, measures, and finds nutriment and room for its activity in this worthy scene. Meantime, Reason transfers all these lessons into its own world of thought, by perceiving the analogy that marries Matter and Mind."

- Ralph Waldo Emerson, Nature (1836)

AshvinP wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:43 pm

Martin_ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 2:25 pm

Only when the images on which we concentrate feel completely and tightly in-phase with our thinking activity, we can say that they are completely our own creation and thus they tightly reflect the thinking gestures that we perform

This is what it was.
(Have to be brief. Power outage today..., )

I apologize Martin for the other thread, because I simply assumed what you wrote about visualizing MJ dancing was a joke to distract from the topic. That was a premature assumption and I should have asked questions first. Sorry.

apology very much appreciated and definitely accepted, and also, for what it's worth, sorry for my part in the frustrations. Yeh, I don't think you and I have the best chemistry... Nevertheless we keep butting our poor heads together.